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To: Jeff Winston
I have stated that persons born on US soil, from the founding of our country, to non-citizen immigrant parents, were natural born citizens.

Sorry, no.

I have acknowledged the denial of this by a few Secretaries of State.

Exactly. They were executing the 14th Amendment as written and intended. Trumbull and Howard were quite clear about the "subject to the jurisdiction" requirement's meaning in the Congressional Record.

The Civil Rights Act of 1866, on which the 14th Amendment is based, is also quite clear:

"Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States..."

136 posted on 04/25/2013 10:00:48 PM PDT by Rides3
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To: Rides3
"The second author of the Citizenship Clause, Illinois Senator Lyman Trumbull, added that 'subject to the jurisdiction of the United States' meant 'not owing allegiance to anybody else.

[T]he provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means."

138 posted on 04/25/2013 10:20:42 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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