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To: EternalVigilance

Get used to this. House to house warrantless searches just became the norm. They will just keep ratcheting down the reasons until barking dogs are enough justification. You just saw martial law without anyone actually declaring it.


23 posted on 04/22/2013 11:44:28 PM PDT by Cololeo (`)
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To: Cololeo; EternalVigilance

And he does only submits to it, he agrees with it.


28 posted on 04/22/2013 11:51:51 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Cololeo
Get used to this. House to house warrantless searches just became the norm.

Only if terrorist bombers running through residential neighborhoods becomes the norm. Otherwise, no way.

32 posted on 04/22/2013 11:53:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (RINOism to Libertarianism: Out of the frying pan and into the fire.)
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To: Cololeo
You just saw martial law without anyone actually declaring it.

What we saw was what Benjamin Franklin warned us about. We saw people willingly sacrificing their liberty for security.

I was also unnerved by the talk of trying the 19 year old in a military tribunal and not reading him his Miranda rights. What he did was heinous for certain, but he is a citizen. No matter the crime, we must demand citizens be treated as innocent until proven guilty or we will find ourselves answering to a tyrant.

81 posted on 04/23/2013 4:05:11 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: Cololeo

Nope. According to the article: “If there are exigent circumstances, like the threat of imminent danger, a warrant isn’t necessarily needed, but the police must still have probable cause.”

And: “The gentleman here (if you can call him that) notes that both times his house was searched the law enforcement officers “asked” permission to do so, but he didn’t feel like he had much of a choice as the police team had guns pointed at his face.”

See post 11 as to how to deal with this. It is legal for police to use all sorts of verbal intimidation up to a point. They do it all the time and have since police departments were first created. The point of our constitution is to clarify when they have crossed a line from legal behavior to illegal.

Each of us, from time to time, is called upon to do his small part to protect our constitution. As one poster said, this would have gone down very differently in Texas. It would have in my state (KY) as well. My response to the cops would have been “I’ve already done a search. He’s not here.”


89 posted on 04/23/2013 4:27:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Cololeo

>>Get used to this. House to house warrantless searches just became the norm. They will just keep ratcheting down the reasons until barking dogs are enough justification. You just saw martial law without anyone actually declaring it.<<

Bingo.

“What happens next time?” is the question we should all be asking. They got to do it once, and you can bet they’ll not let the power-trip subside.


94 posted on 04/23/2013 4:47:30 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.")
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