Get used to this. House to house warrantless searches just became the norm. They will just keep ratcheting down the reasons until barking dogs are enough justification. You just saw martial law without anyone actually declaring it.
And he does only submits to it, he agrees with it.
Only if terrorist bombers running through residential neighborhoods becomes the norm. Otherwise, no way.
What we saw was what Benjamin Franklin warned us about. We saw people willingly sacrificing their liberty for security.
I was also unnerved by the talk of trying the 19 year old in a military tribunal and not reading him his Miranda rights. What he did was heinous for certain, but he is a citizen. No matter the crime, we must demand citizens be treated as innocent until proven guilty or we will find ourselves answering to a tyrant.
Nope. According to the article: “If there are exigent circumstances, like the threat of imminent danger, a warrant isn’t necessarily needed, but the police must still have probable cause.”
And: “The gentleman here (if you can call him that) notes that both times his house was searched the law enforcement officers asked permission to do so, but he didnt feel like he had much of a choice as the police team had guns pointed at his face.”
See post 11 as to how to deal with this. It is legal for police to use all sorts of verbal intimidation up to a point. They do it all the time and have since police departments were first created. The point of our constitution is to clarify when they have crossed a line from legal behavior to illegal.
Each of us, from time to time, is called upon to do his small part to protect our constitution. As one poster said, this would have gone down very differently in Texas. It would have in my state (KY) as well. My response to the cops would have been “I’ve already done a search. He’s not here.”
>>Get used to this. House to house warrantless searches just became the norm. They will just keep ratcheting down the reasons until barking dogs are enough justification. You just saw martial law without anyone actually declaring it.<<
Bingo.
“What happens next time?” is the question we should all be asking. They got to do it once, and you can bet they’ll not let the power-trip subside.