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So tell me, where do you get the idea the self promotion is bad?

I get that idea when you perform that promotion on a site that I have supported financially for a decade and more.
One that I have not seen you support.

That's where I get the objection to your self-promotion here.

All the rest of your post is moot considering the above, my first and most relevant point.

I can either type it more slowly for you, or try to scare up some crayons and puppets.

I understand your point, but seriously, it is flawed. You somehow think that someone perhaps, maybe, slightly, derving a little commercial benefit from a site you support is cheating you. It is not. There is no way to totally separate commercial benefit from a large number of people and media, and moreoever, there is no way to police it, and yet, you try. You need to grow up and realize the world runs on some dynamics that you have managed not to take notice of. But don’t worry about it, it runs just fine without your help.

Jim Rob, as is his right, derives his benefit by way of fund raisers. Some other sites have commercial sponsors, and some have Google ads random, and some others have private benefactors, and some have a mix. All are valid, all are the purview of the site owner, but all point to the fact that whenever media and people mix, there is commercial activity - covert and overt - and there is nothing humblegunner can do to prevent that.

Now, frankly, it requires very little intellect to figure out when a posting has some sort of ulterior motive. So what? Who is to say what is “proper” motive and what is “ulterior” in the first place? You? Methinks not. Having said that, we are all free to move right past any posting we think is shameful. You are really adding no value by what you do. It’s obvious, and not relevant to anything. Again, you think it’s cheating you, but that just proves further that you are guilty of falling under Mencken’s definition.

Yes, people might derive some financial benefit from posting on FR. So what? If that were not the case, what that would mean is FR is not effective nor large. You are resentful of what defines a successful site, and you are also resentful of those who would chase success as well. You may get your shorts in a wad over who has been registered for how long or who gives how much, but only your shorts are in that wad.

This is not your little fifedom.....and it;s obvious to all hear that this irks the ever living _____ out of you.

Now think about this, and I know this is going to drive you bonkers. You may stay up all night about this one. What if I were to suggest that perhaps, just maybe, some people have become friends, and even done business together, as a result of meeting on FR? I mean, there are some pretty high rollers in the financial world on here, and who knows, they might have struck up big deals as a result of a site YOU donated to...and they didn't cut YOU in on it

OH NO OH NO OH NO. And HG DONATED, and someone else BENEFITTED??????????? OH NO!!!!

What are you going to do to stop THAT?