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Market Ticker ^ | 4/20/2013 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 04/21/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer

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1 posted on 04/21/2013 4:40:36 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Not only did they search without a warrant there were multiple reports through the day of seizure of firearms, among other things.

Has anyone heard any specific instances about this?

2 posted on 04/21/2013 4:43:57 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Every act of terrorism on US soil leads to further erosion of the 1st, (assembly); 2nd, and 4th Amendments.

Sometimes rapidly but invetiably and inexorably gradually.


3 posted on 04/21/2013 4:48:02 PM PDT by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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I've been having thoughts along the same lines these past few days. On Friday, one of the largest cities in the nation was effectively shut down. Boston Metro area contains approximately 4.5 million people and the majority of them either did not go to work or if they did, most of the workday was frittered away listening to news reports and surfing the web. An entire day of productivity down the drain due to some 19-year-old punk kid.

Many of the people in the "lock-down" area microwaved popcorn and sat on their couches watching the TV as thousands of law enforcement and para-military types streamed through their neighborhoods with police cruisers a-flashing with sirens blaring.

You would think that the populace would be upset about being told to "shelter in place" while some homicidal muslim was apparently running through their neighborhood. But no, they docilely sat on their couches as they did about three months ago when the governor once again told everybody to "shelter in place" as a snowstorm moved through our region. That was also on a Friday. So the typical reaction of citizens here was "another 3-day weekend...yayyy!"

The only good part of Friday was how it took only 30 minutes for a regular citizen to find the culprit once they were told they were free to move about once again.

30,000 cops and a hundred times more police cruisers than were used in the Blues Brothers movie and all for naught. Some dude in a flannel shirt wanders into his backyard to check on his boat and finds the kid just like that.

4 posted on 04/21/2013 4:51:54 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Didn’t Karl vote for Bammy?


5 posted on 04/21/2013 4:54:24 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Vince Ferrer

Excellent rant. Spot on.


6 posted on 04/21/2013 4:57:19 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: Vince Ferrer; RummyChick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8&feature=youtu.be

Hat tip to Rummy Chick for the video...but yeah, here’s an example. Scary.


7 posted on 04/21/2013 5:03:04 PM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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True; however, considering the politics of Boston(off the charts leftwing extremism)couldn’t one conclude they basically voted for this kind of action and have been doing so for generations?


8 posted on 04/21/2013 5:04:26 PM PDT by MachIV
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This is the first rant by Denninger that I concur with 100%. Right on dude, all the fatazz fed Barney Fifes could not manage to find their own AH’s. Funny how the pussified Bostonians laid down and let the Fatazz Barneys walk all over them.


9 posted on 04/21/2013 5:13:48 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: lightman
Every act of terrorism on US soil leads to further erosion of the 1st, (assembly); 2nd, and 4th Amendments.

Blame public education & our ridiculously lax immigration system.

Thanks to them we're currently filled with people who hate us.

10 posted on 04/21/2013 5:15:29 PM PDT by skeeter
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With respects to Mr. Deninnger, what could the police have done differently to catch Joker? In addition to the Boston Marathon bombings, he had been involved in the murder of an on duty police officer, and the injuring of another on duty police officer, and was in a shootout including the use of explosives while being pursed by other officers. He was hiding, he was armed, and he may have had explosives. What - TACTICALLY - could the police have done differently once they knew he was on foot in the Watertown neighborhood? If he wasn’t quickly found by dogs and helicopters, how could they KNOW he was not inside someone’s house with the occupants tied up and gagged, waiting until the police leave so he could take their car, unless they go door to door contacting the residents?


11 posted on 04/21/2013 5:15:43 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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Might as well give up the third while we are at it. That way if a scary terrorist shows up at night, the troops downstairs will take care of it.


12 posted on 04/21/2013 5:15:59 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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Joe Biden Gun Control, "We wont take your guns"
13 posted on 04/21/2013 5:17:02 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Enterprise
what could the police have done differently to catch Joker?

Not let him drive away (possibly over his brother) would have been a good start. It ended up some guy found him in a boat and the only reason it took that long was because the boat owner was forced to stay inside. The cops could sign more permits (they need shall issue).

TACTICALLY

Park their fat asses at the dunkin donuts and wait since that's all they did in the end anyway.

14 posted on 04/21/2013 5:21:56 PM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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"what could the police have done differently to catch Joker?"

The police are the experts, why don't you go ask them? I KNOW that martial law is not the effective answer. There are thousands of wanted fugitives in the nation. Are we supposed to go into martial law and perform house to house searches until they are all caught? That is what you seem to support.

Conversely, there are millions of prisoners in the US today. I don't know of any citywide martial law instances to catch them.


15 posted on 04/21/2013 5:22:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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"The police are the experts, why don't you go ask them?"

OK. Mr. Officer, do you think the tactics used to capture Joker were appropriate?

Officer: "Yes."

Thank you Mr. Officer. Well there we have it, the police are the experts and they all concur that the tactics were appropriate.

The core question here Code, is not what I support, but in THIS operation, what could the police have done differently?

16 posted on 04/21/2013 5:28:47 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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17 posted on 04/21/2013 5:30:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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The reality of the situation is that Joker did drive away, and he led the police to a neighborhood in Watertown. Faced with that, and knowing that he was armed and dangerous, what could they have done differently? And I reject the suggestion that parking themselves at a doughnut shop is tactically superior to setting up a perimeter.


18 posted on 04/21/2013 5:33:40 PM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Denninger is pitifully lacking in documentation and verification.


19 posted on 04/21/2013 5:36:43 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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In a manhunt with a bleeding perp, I saw nary a “tracker dog” all day....but they might have been on a long break at the doughnut shop or union break.


20 posted on 04/21/2013 5:49:28 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The Team: Progressives, Margret Sanger, Josef Mengele and the Butcher of Philadelphia)
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