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To: rhema

We — Christians, conservatives and other non-gays — need to look in the mirror. Saying that gay marriage is destroying marriage is a cop out. It makes it sound like marriage was some strong, vibrant institution and then all the sudden gays came along and tried to destroy marriage with gay marriage. That is simply not true. Marriage, as an institution, has been on life support for years. As a prior poster said, the sick institution is susceptible to any infection. A strong institution would have been able to brush gay marriage off. And once the gay marriage debate is done, we will move on to the next one — polygamy or even easier divorce laws, or lowering the consent age to accomodate immigrant cultures. We — normal, average, heterosexual Americans — caused this problem by making marriage more convenient for us. Allowing us to hop in and out of marriage and making it OK to live together and sleep around. We can’t now turn around and blame it all on gays.


33 posted on 04/20/2013 6:29:27 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
We — Christians, conservatives and other non-gays — need to look in the mirror. Saying that gay marriage is destroying marriage is a cop out.

We need to look in the mirror and get a little reading comprehension actually. The point of this article....THE POINT OF THIS ARTICLE.....was that a gay activist was admitting that destruction of marriage was really their goal. All of your attempts to stay above the fray by blaming us first (altho your points are accurate) proves that you were not able to follow the logic of the article.

35 posted on 04/20/2013 6:33:45 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
No one's trying to blame it all on gays. And yes, the Christian Church does need to be very public about strengthening and supporting God's design for marriage.

Witness this declaration from an evangelical denomination:

Declaration
God created people male and female, and provided for the marriage relationship in which two may become one. A publicly declared, legally binding marriage between one woman and one man is the one appropriate place for sexual intercourse. Heterosexual marriage, faithfulness within marriage, abstinence outside of marriage—these constitute the Christian standard. When we fall short, we are invited to repent, receive the forgiveness of God, and amend our lives.

Response
We recognize that God’s gift of sexuality is like a deep and swiftly moving river, beautiful, mysterious, and powerful. The boundaries of Scripture must be built into our lives in order for this immense power to be a source of blessing rather than destruction. Therefore, we call upon pastors, church members, and Christian families to forsake silence about sexuality and to declare God’s truth about the beauty and potential of sexuality and to warn and counsel with compassion when it is misused. In the local church, we encourage ministries to address these needs:

to teach children, teens, and adults the biblical basis for the Christian standard of sexuality.
to prepare people for marriage and enrich marriages.
to affirm the gift of singleness and welcome singles into the full life of the congregation.
to oppose the proliferation of pornography and prostitution.
to care for persons involved in sexual sins such as adultery, homosexual behavior and promiscuity, compassionately recognizing the potential of these sins to take the form of addiction.
to teach the dangers and harm of spousal abuse, sexual abuse and sexual harassment, seeking to prevent these sins in Christian homes and lives.
to compassionately care for the victims of sexual sins of all kinds.

37 posted on 04/20/2013 6:40:09 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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