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To: EternalVigilance
Can you point me to that part of the Constitution which grants to the general government the power to give a thumbs up or a thumbs down to whether or not you are qualified to earn your daily sustenance?

So tell me how you are going to convince the American public to deport the 40 million illegals in this country.

How are you going to accomplish this lofty goal given current politics?

Or tell me your vision of the future, that is realistic, that this scenario can be accomplished in.
47 posted on 04/19/2013 8:38:31 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

So, the answer to my question is “no,” right?

The answer to your question is that the first step for accomplishing this is to convince conservatives to return to the plumb line of principle and to then think through the consequences of the policies they support. So that we can then argue from a firm basis and put forward a strong united front.

It’s amazing how much power there is in having the truth and right on your side.


48 posted on 04/19/2013 8:53:08 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If the oath-breaking politicians won't fear God, we can at least make them fear We the People.)
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To: SoConPubbie; EternalVigilance

Food for thought...

It is a crime to enter and overstay your visa. If it’s not legal for the person to BE here, they used to be deported. Back in the day (when there was some semblance of law) this was not questioned by Americans.

Some employers hired illegals, but there were legal ramifications if they got caught.

Nowadays the government is unconstitutionally providing benefits to people, but for the moment, let’s forget the unconstitutional part.

Even without e-verify, people should have to prove citizenship to get government benefits. And if they are illegally here, they should be deported.

Since we have millions of illegals here, we have a problem - they have all committed the crime of entering illegally, the main thrust of the penalty for which is deportation. I don’t want to be mean to “nice” people, but if you committed the crime just admit it. If I went to the illegal’s home country and stayed illegally - you can bet I’d be in jail there and then deported. The Constitution does grant the power to pass laws to solve such problems, IMHO.

To me, if I go rob a bank, I will have committed a crime. The police will go look for me and arrest me. They will search LIKELY places for me.

I see suburban LE all over the place with some time on their hands. IMHO, every town and city should have a process of continually finding illegals, arresting and deporting them, and it should not cost one extra penny for LE to work on this on the back burner.

As a business owner, I do not want to hire an illegal. I should not be. If it’s not illegal any more - it should be.

LIKELY businesses should be checked up on by LE - and if illegals are found, they should be arrested and deported.

Restaurants, landscapers, etc.

The law USED TO be the law.

When I go for a driver’s license renewal, I have to prove who I am; it’s a whole big deal.

Employees all have to fill out an I-9.

Yes, I should as an employer have to keep an eye out for people committing crimes that work for me. If I think an employee robbed a bank, would I say it’s not my business, I have no right to bother the person ?

When my business gets its feathers ruffled because LE surprises me during the dinner rush looking for illegals, I get mad ? No way. I’d love to hire you, but you have to be a citizen. Just because I own a business does not give me the right to be part of the problem and harbor criminals.

IMHO...


53 posted on 04/19/2013 9:04:13 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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