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The Toomey-Manchin Proposal Will Allow Doctors to Block Your Right to Guns
http://www.redstate.com ^ | April 10, 2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 04/12/2013 6:51:42 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

I just talked to someone familiar with the Toomey-Manchin proposal who raises a serious concern based on his understanding of the legislation.

Everyone on all sides agrees that we need better help for those with mental health problems who need treatment.

Unfortunately, the person I talked with is concerned that the Toomey-Manchin proposal could discourage people from getting help.

The proposal will allow a doctor to add a patient to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) without ever telling the patient he or she has been added.

There would be no due process requirement. Not all doctors will be able to do it with the same ease, but many will. Knowing a doctor could add him to a federal database as mentally ill without his knowledge could potentially dissuade a patient from going to the doctor in the first place to get help.

Worse, if the doctor does so and makes a mistake, the patient would have to actively work through the system to get himself removed — guilty before being proven innocent. In some states, should a doctor flag you as having mental illness without your knowledge, you may very well see the state come collect your previously purchased guns.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: doctors; guncontrol; guns; intrusivegovernment; secondamendment; sourcetitlenoturl
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To: NKP_Vet

I hope Toomey is toast. He has done NOTHING, produced NOTHING and said NOTHING to advance or protect freedom and preserve the Constitution since he was sent to Washington.

Now he surfaces for the first time into public sight and this is what he produces? His first visible piece if legislation is this monstrosity?

I like Casey better. At least he just sits in the corner and just does what Pinky Reid tells him to do. He doesn’t pretend to be anything more than the poop stain that he is.

You’re a one termer Toomey. Enjoy the perks while you can. I and a million others in this Commonwealth are going to make sure you get sent home after the next election. Maybe you can get a job cleaning the heads on Manchin’s boat. It’s all you are good for.


21 posted on 04/12/2013 7:35:00 AM PDT by SargeK
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To: baddog 219

Liars, traitors, whores and fools.


22 posted on 04/12/2013 8:02:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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It will be found an unjust and unwise jealousy to deprive a man of his natural liberty upon the supposition he may abuse it.


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23 posted on 04/12/2013 8:05:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Travis McGee

More proof that they are there for themselves, not us.
We need to clean the filth out of the capital.


24 posted on 04/12/2013 8:17:44 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: longtermmemmory
“you have a cold”

“you are tired”

“you have alergies”

“you take medicine with a heavy machinery warning”

“you don’t agree with me.”

no second amendment for you!

Yep, guess I'll be banned I'm looking at my meds, I take a common blood pressure medication that has a "may impair ability to drive or operate heavy machinery" warning, I also take a common seasonal allergy medication that warns "may cause mental/mood changes in some patients". Two of the most common drugs in existence, probably 50 million people on them.

25 posted on 04/12/2013 8:26:45 AM PDT by apillar
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To: NKP_Vet

The slippery slope; first it will target the gun holders and then will throw in the gun holder’s wife/ friend and other family members.


26 posted on 04/12/2013 8:54:54 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: JimRed
The question is, will they get them ammunition first?

First or second, doesn’t matter they will still get them. Without a total insurrection, they will pick us off one at a time.

27 posted on 04/12/2013 10:27:28 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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