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1 posted on 04/07/2013 6:15:11 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Idiots, Useful - 1 generation each

 

"According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
 
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.
 
The first stage being "demoralization".
 
It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.
 
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion.  Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science.  Members of parliament, representatives of business circles. 
 
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups:  those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation;  [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.  "
--KGB Defector Yuri Bezmenov
--Soviet Subversion of the Free Press (Ideological subversion, Destabilization, CRISIS - and the KGB)
 
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2095202/posts

69 posted on 04/07/2013 7:40:41 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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“Why Are Young Americans So Supporting of Obama?”

Because they feel like brilliant, fulfilled geniuses, every time they vote for a Progressive.

It’s a part of the Progressive religion; brilliance, genius, superiority and cosmic intelligence are bestowed freely on those who believe. (Very scary indeed)

IMHO


73 posted on 04/07/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by ripley
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Obama has always courted them, and utilized them, and returned to them as a “@allback” constituency,because he’s
recognized how valuable they proved to be, starting with his @irst election: it’s a symbiotic relationship, which is really not very di@@erent @rom how most politicians view their discrete “voting blocs”.
Youth is @lattered by being provided with someone like Obama to “vote @or”, and he is @lattered by them, as per the visual with commentary provided at the beginning o@ this thread.
As long as the S doesn’t HT@ TOO SOON OR TOO HARD, they will continue to honor the “blame game” that his been put in place by his Administration @rom the beginning: namely, “no one else” could have pulled us out o@ this hole eight years o@ Bush put us in with such blithe humor, good grace, and resolve. It’s a @arce, but since they don’t want to @ace reality just as much as he doesn’t want to @ace reality, he’s still a pretty good @it or them.


74 posted on 04/07/2013 7:55:23 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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This question of why many youth cling to a belief that ultimately harms them is actually a problem of ideology. The study of ideological thinking comes under what is known as cognitive science.

It is not enough to claim that students are indoctrinated. Indoctrination only explains how the process works. It doesn't explain what they are indoctrinated with that makes them think universally alike. After all, it is not possible to indoctrinate every student with every detail about liberalism. There must be a single reason that they all come to the same conclusions on hundreds of issues while never having been indoctrinated specifically about many of those issues.

It is this single what that students are indoctrinated with that is the real question. For a theory to explain the reason that some people become liberal while other people become conservative it must satisfy four adequacy conditions. For an explanation of the Liberal/Conservative Divide In America read the first slideshow here.

80 posted on 04/07/2013 8:21:38 AM PDT by DeprogramLiberalism (<- a profile worth reading)
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All the kids, of voting age, that I know (friends of son and DIL’s, nieces, nephews, etc.) didn’t vote for Obama. However, there were a couple Ron Paul voters in the mix.

They came from conservative homes, and the parents took time to help them navigate the “misinformation” coming out of the Washington and the MSM. Plus once you get a job, you have a much keener awareness of how government works, (i.e. takes your money) and you become more conservative. All the kids I mentioned have jobs.

Now as to kids in general (whose parents aren’t conservative, or are conservative and didn’t pass on their knowledge to their kids, the quote below and the article listed could be the problem...they can’t figure it out for themselves because the reasoning part of the brain isn’t developed until age 25.)

http://teenbrain.drugfree.org/science/behavior.html
Quote from article:

“The parts of the adolescent brain which develop first are those which control physical coordination, emotion and motivation. However, the part of the brain which controls reasoning and impulses - known as the Prefrontal Cortex - is near the front of the brain and, therefore, develops last. This part of the brain does not fully mature until the age of 25.”

We’ve joked with our kid for years that his brain isn’t fully developed till he’s 25, and the body begins to deteriorate at 27, so all in all, you’ve got 2 good years where everything’s working :)


81 posted on 04/07/2013 8:26:18 AM PDT by memyselfandi59
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Young people voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers, but the question is why?.

1.Socialism
2.Free ride
3.Stupidity


82 posted on 04/07/2013 8:27:04 AM PDT by Vaduz
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Why? One might question whether it could be related to the fact that, for decades, so-called "progressive" control of the education of youth have prepared them for such a time, substituting "other" ideas for America's founding ideas of Creator-endowed rights, freedom for individual enterprise and pursuit of happiness under a "People's" Constitution to limit their government.

The following is excerpted from a series entitled, "Lessons on Liberty," by a Co-Editor of "Our Ageless Constitution" & "Rediscovering the Ideas of Liberty." The "Lesson" contrasts the Founders' Ideas of Liberty" to be taught to rising generations, with the Counterfeit Ideas promoted in the "public schools" of America for decades.

IDEAS OF LIBERTY:

(from America’s Founders and Presidents)

“The God who gave us life gave us liberty at the same time; the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.” (Jefferson - 1774)

“Statesmen may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone which can establish the principles upon which Freedom can securely stand.” (John Adams - 1775)

“The Sacred Rights of Mankind are not to be rummaged for among old parchments or musty records. They are written, as with a sunbeam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the Hand of the Divinity itself, and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power.” (Alexander Hamilton)

“Without God, there could be no American form of government, nor an American way of life. Recognition of the Supreme Being is the first and the most basic expression of Americanism. Thus the founding fathers saw it, and thus, with God’s help, it will continue to be.” (Dwight Eisenhower)

“The same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe, the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state but from the hand of God.” (John F. Kennedy - 1961 Inaugural)

“…it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor….”(George Washington)

“Now the virtue which had been infused into the Constitution…and was to give it…the stability and duration to which it was destined, was no other than…those abstract principles…proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence—namely, the self-evident truths of the…unalienable rights of man…the…sovereignty of the people, always subordinate to a rule of right and wrong, and always responsible to the Supreme Ruler of the universe for the rightful exercise of that sovereign…power.” (John Quincy Adams, on the occasion of The Jubilee of the Constitution - 1839)

"Today, across our nation, we see consequences of decades of gross neglect and outright censorship of the Founders’ ideas from textbooks and from our public discourse. We have allowed counterfeit ideas to dominate the public square, and the Founders’ principles have been crowded out. Unwittingly, many teachers and other unknowing officials have participated in the agenda of an unelected mind-controlling elite whose tyrannical actions have robbed generations of Americans from reading or studying the ideas that made America free. Like termites, they have eroded our foundations as effectively as if they had burned the books. Yet, not once have they been willing to call it by its rightful name—censorship. Once, in America, stifling ideas about the Creator and Creator-endowed liberty was considered unthinkable. . . .

"The ideas of liberty must be passed on from generation to generation if liberty is to survive. These ideas, when they are allowed to be examined freely, will prevail, because their appeal is to reason and to the love for liberty that is deep in the human heart. John Adams warned: “The people of America now have the best opportunity and the greatest trust in their hands, that Providence ever committed to so small a number…if they betray their trust, their guilt will merit even greater punishment than other nations have suffered, and the indignation of Heaven.”

COUNTERFEIT IDEAS:

(from some of those whose views have dominated national educational policy)

“The idea of God is the keystone of a perverted society. The true root of liberty, equality and culture is atheism.” (Karl Marx)

Our thinking is enlightened “in the degree in which we cease to depend upon belief in the supernatural.” (John Dewey, father of ‘progressive education’ and 1st President of American Humanist Society)

“…democracy is a human faith and movement, unencumbered by supernatural preconceptions.” (John Childs, a protégé of John Dewey at Columbia)

“…the majority of our youth still hold the values of their parents, and if we do not alter this pattern, if we do not resocialize ourselves to accept change, our society may decay.” (John Goodlad, 1971 Report to President, Schooling for the Future)

“As in 1933, humanists still believe that traditional theism, especially a faith in the prayer-hearing God, who is assumed to love and care for persons, to hear and understand their prayers, and be able to do something about them, is an unproved and outmoded faith.” (Humanist Manifesto II, 1973)

“…the most important factor moving us toward a secular society has been the educational factor. Our schools may not teach Johnny to read properly, but the fact that Johnny is in school until he is sixteen tends to lead toward elimination of religious superstition.” (Paul Blanshard, The Humanist, March-April, 1976)

“It [the Nat’l. Education Association’s publication list] includes the delegitimizing of all authority save that of the state, the degradation of traditional morality and the encouragement of citizens in general and children in particular to despise the rules and customs that make their society a functional democracy. The NEA is drifting into exceedingly dangerous waters, and probably carrying more than a few teachers and pupils with it.” (Chester E. Finn, Jr., Ass’t. Sec. Of Education & Prof. Of Education & Public Policy, Vanderbilt Univ., 1982)

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“Now, my countrymen, if you have been taught doctrines which conflict with the great landmarks of the Declaration of Independence…let me entreat you to come back. Return to the fountains whose waters spring close to the blood of the Revolution.” (Abraham Lincoln)

90 posted on 04/07/2013 9:20:59 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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Because he’s “cool”.


94 posted on 04/07/2013 9:33:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Bring American jobs home.

Bring back American industry.

How does any Republican expect to win election, by sending American jobs to foreign countries?

C’mon people wake up.


100 posted on 04/07/2013 9:46:53 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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As the father of two comparatively conservative twenty somethings and the stepfather of three liberal thirty somethings, I have the following observations:
1. Our children have been raised to believe that life should be fair. They have also generally been raised to believe that government is the primary instrument of change. Realizing that life is not fair, they then turn to government and the Democrats as the primary party of government to rectify perceived unfairness.
2. Many of our children have attended high schools, universities and colleges which are dramatically biased in favor of progressivism. In such an environment it is the rare student who will be willing and able to stand almost alone against the prevailing orthodoxy. At those institutions they have not been well-served. When I went to college, De Toqueville and the Federalist Papers were required reading. These days students are more likely to encounter Howard Zinn than Madison and Hamilton.
3. Many young people are low information voters. Just after the election, I overheard a conversation between and older man and a young man who is a student at a very selective university. It was clear that the young man was proud of his vote for Obama. It was also clear that he had not even heard of Benghazi.
4. As painful as it will be for many on this forum to hear this, the stance of the Republican Party on social issues is a problem for many young people. I cannot tell you the number of times I have heard from my children and one of my stepchildren and many of their friends that they are conservative on fiscal issues and “liberal” on social issues and choose to vote based on social issues.
5. In that regard, they make that choice in part because they have grown up in the most affluent, consumer based society the world has ever known and we - their parents - have insulated them from the need to make hard economic choices. Sadly for them and us, the good times will not be as easy to come by in the future. International competition and domestic policies that suppress the private economy at home mean that fewer and fewer of our children will be able to prosper as we have. It will be interesting to see how they react. Will they be able to see that government is a big part of the problem? Will they be willing to renounce their devotion to the environmental movement, public employee unions, and labor and tax “fairness” to get our economy moving again?
6. They are inexperienced. They have not seen how corrupt, self-serving, incompetent, and destructive government can be.
7. The need to feel accepted. It was just not cool to oppose Obama on most campuses during the last two national elections.


111 posted on 04/07/2013 10:29:52 AM PDT by p. henry
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Why Are Young Americans Supportive of Obama When His Policies Are So Bad for Them?

No experience in *REAL Life* out of the *nest*.
In my generation when you made 18 it was time to get after it on your own, it was a matter of self pride.
We now have a bunch who are totally content, with no shame, to act like children into their 30's or longer and still depend on mommy and daddy along with mommy and daddy state.
Obama is mommy and daddy state.
They don't *get after it* because they don't have to and believe good things should automatically fall into their laps without any effort on their part.
Obama's BS plays well to these lazy, whining, basically useless fools.

112 posted on 04/07/2013 10:36:08 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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Young Americans support Obama?

Think again.

Young Black, Hispanic, and Asian Americans support Obama, at roughly the same percentage their parents support him.

Young white voters, 18-29 years old, supported Romney, and even young white women gave him a 1% majority.

White college age voters, 18-22 years old, are a little more Left, but I don't know the exact percentage.

So, what's the problem, then?

The racial proportions change from older to younger.

Old folks are about 80% white.

Young folks are about 60% white.

That accounts for almost ALL the difference in voting patterns.

If the racial proportion in 2012 was the same as 1980, Mitt Romney would be president.

118 posted on 04/07/2013 3:25:54 PM PDT by zeestephen
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Because their media masters told them so.


121 posted on 04/07/2013 5:21:53 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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It’s a combination of economic illiteracy, ignorance of history (the world did not begin the day a young person today was born), loose morals (total ignorance of Scripture), and inability to reason effectively.


123 posted on 04/07/2013 9:30:04 PM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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A: Indoctrination.

Duh.


124 posted on 04/08/2013 11:28:31 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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The GOP thinks that if they embrace gay marriage, the youth vote will go GOP. Talk about deluded thinking. The many deaths in the Iraqi War is what caused the youth vote to sour on the GOP. Young people had their friends and family got to Iraqi to fight to stop Saddam’s tyranny. Many of them died or returned maimed. Thus, many young people blame Bush/Cheney for what happened to their family/friends.


125 posted on 04/08/2013 6:27:26 PM PDT by yongin
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