Posted on 04/07/2013 12:11:59 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
[UK] Labour's liberalisation of the cannabis laws was a disaster that pushed up drug use and crime and doubled the number of drug victims in hospital beds, two major research studies said yesterday.
They found that after police were told to go easy on cannabis smokers, there were increases in assaults, theft and car theft, burglaries, vandalism and anti-social behaviour.
The chance that a young person who had never smoked cannabis would try the drug went up by a quarter after it became unlikely they would get more than a warning if caught by police, one project found.
The likelihood that they would smoke it on a regular basis went up by 8 per cent.
According to a second study, an experiment in relaxing cannabis laws on the streets of South London led to a rise of 40 to 100 per cent in the numbers of men admitted to hospital due to their use of harder drugs.
That report, by researchers from the Institute for Fiscal Studies, said: ‘We find the depenalisation of cannabis had significant longer-term impacts on hospital admissions related to the use of hard drugs.’
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The “minimalist” government you talk about springs directly from atheism.
Ayn Rand — and most other libertarians (as Murray Rothbard writes) are atheists. Atheism is exhilarating, particularly for our hormone-addled youth who care little about boring economic libertarianism. Abandoning the Ten Commandments/go to church God liberates our youngsters to vote for what they really, really want to do — live in a world with no restrictions on sex and drugs. Atheism is heart and soul of libertarianism.
Nonsense: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad0b80b3a17.htm - "NO KING BUT JESUS: Romans 13 and the Perfect Law of Liberty"
Are not most libertarians atheists?
Nonsense: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad0b80b3a17.htm - "NO KING BUT JESUS: Romans 13 and the Perfect Law of Liberty"
Are not most libertarians atheists?
That's a different claim than your previous one. And my answer is: I have no idea - if you have some hard numbers feel free to post them.
Libertarians fight hardest for drugs and sex. It sure ain’t to roll back laws on minimum wage, off-shore drilling and insider trading. You pretty much have to be an non-church going atheist to fight so hard for drugs and sex.
Polls show that our young people are less religious and increasingly libertarian on social issues(they may tell pollsters they’re pro-life but live promiscuously and when a “crisis” arises, they gladly fork over the $250 to solve the “problem” (as Obama would put it)
Here’s a quote from libertarian Murray Rothbard — “It is true that many if not most libertarians at the present time are atheists, but this correlates with the fact that most intellectuals, of most political persuasions, are atheists as well. Ayn Rand, of course, was a wacko atheist.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad0b80b3a17.htm - "NO KING BUT JESUS: Romans 13 and the Perfect Law of Liberty"
Are not most libertarians atheists?
That's a different claim than your previous one. And my answer is: I have no idea - if you have some hard numbers feel free to post them.
Libertarians fight hardest for drugs and sex.
Another post and another new claim from you. It's like trying to nail Jell-O to a wall.
By the way, I hate to have to break it to you, but sex is already legal.
Your supposed evidence “NO KING” was an extinct link
My previous claims were based on obvious truth. As with any other movement, religion and philosophy come first — then political beliefs flow from there.
For the typical libertarian, panting after sex and drugs (legal and otherwise) as society goes downhill, atheism comes first. For more on atheism, see Ayn Rand, and the Rothberg quote, which I’ve sent you twice now (talk about nailing Jello to a wall)
Bummer. Here's a working link: http://web.archive.org/web/20071015041700/http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad0b80b3a17.htm
My previous claims were based on obvious truth.
Sorry, "obvious truths" aren't data - Aristotle considered it an obvious truth that heavier objects fell faster.
the Rothberg quote, which I’ve sent you twice now
Wrong - it was quoted once and paraphrased once ... and without any evidence of Rothbard's having conducted an empirical study remains merely his opinion.
Rothbard knows the libertarian community as well as anyone. If he thinks most libertarians are atheists, I’ll take his word for it. Ayn Rand was an militant atheist, and millions of libertarians take her words as gospel. Especially the hormone-addled childless youth who live and vote like atheists.
Here’s an obvious truth, like water flows downhill. People grow up with religious and philosophical beliefs first, which ultimately shape political beliefs. They learn about God at age four, start walking precincts with their parents at ten, and voting at 18. What’s so controversial about that?
He knows the libertarians he's met or conversed with - there's no evidence on the table that he's ever attempted to survey a representative cross-section of the entire libertarian community, or claimed to have done so.
People grow up with religious and philosophical beliefs first, which ultimately shape political beliefs.
And as the link I've posted shows, one can grow up with Christian beliefs and end up with a political philosophy of minimal government:
"NO KING BUT JESUS: Romans 13 and the Perfect Law of Liberty" - http://web.archive.org/web/20071015041700/http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad0b80b3a17.htm
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