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To: 3Fingas

Failed counter-insurgency doctrine? I thought it worked.

No matter, as long as Hitlery is free, no one else should go to jail.


13 posted on 04/05/2013 9:38:34 PM PDT by laplata (The Answer To 1984 Is 1776)
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To: laplata

It failed. All he did was throw our support behind the stronger side of the civil war, and declare victory. His COIN never worked.
It nnever worked in Afghanistan either. The minute we leave, it will return to the hellhole it has always been. It’s a sick fantasy that we are winning hearts and minds over there.

In WWII Petraeus was the kind of General we cashed in wholesale right after Pearl Harbor. An academic who got the ear of the power brokers.

They only learn how to play us for their purposes. Witness the “arab spring”.


21 posted on 04/05/2013 9:47:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: laplata

It worked? If you call getting a lot of Americans dead when they didn’t need to be. Also, you have to look at the long-term outcome of his policies. Both Iraq and Afghanistan are turning out to be disasters.

I don’t believe in nation building and I don’t believe in sending our people into foreign countries with restrictive Rules of Engagement just to be sitting ducks for IEDs, suicide bombings, green-green instant jihad syndrome attacks, and random sniping. If we go to war, we should go to win. We should bomb them senseless using what everything we have in our inventory. We should use overwhelming firepower and we should destroy the opposition. Special forces such as the Green Beret and civic action units can do some of what Petreus was always pushing, but our main forces are for destroying the enemy, not making friends. If we are not going to fight to win, we should just stay home. Also, we should not commit our main forces again unless we have a formal declaration of war. I am sick and tired of half-a**ed military interventions. Short of declared war, we have fantastic special forces that can handle the low-level, under the table stuff.


27 posted on 04/05/2013 9:56:27 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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