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To: varyouga
You can't even believe another man's version of what happened yesterday, much less many millenia ago. And even if you saw something with your own eyes, it could be a complete misinterpretation (like stone-age natives seeing aircraft for the first time and linking it to their own prophesy).

Pure sophistry. You cannot believe anything that even you have investigated? This direction leads to moral (and empirical) relativism. You have to set points of origin and frameworks on things. If you are standing in Atlanta GA, and drop a peach of your hand 5 times and it falls to the street 5 times, you can be reasonably assured it will fall the 6th time.

In what way? How do you know that paper/parchment in the hands of man for thousands of years is 100% the indisputable word of God?

I choose to believe it is, because it lines up so well with successful human endeavors and lives.

56 posted on 04/06/2013 6:30:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Lazamataz
“You cannot believe anything that even you have investigated? This direction leads to moral (and empirical) relativism. You have to set points of origin and frameworks on things. If you are standing in Atlanta GA,and drop a peach of your hand 5 times and it falls to the street 5 times,you can be reasonably assured it will fall the 6th time.”

Yes, it is possible to reasonably predict simple things within this reality (I do so every day as an engineer) but we know little of the underlying mechanisms of this reality beyond our narrow perception.

Yes, you can explain everything you see by saying “God makes it so” but I think He gave us the curiosity and mental ability to dig far deeper than that. For most of history people believed thunder was some God or Gods making sounds with a hammer, etc.

Part of digging deeper is questioning EVERYTHING you see and hear. Even if some humans thousands of years ago claimed to have written His word onto paper, I don't think He would want us to accept it without question.

Yes, I believe much of it is truth but there is also likely a great deal of mistranslation, editing, misinterpretation, etc. Nearly every page in the Bible has translations/interpretations disputed by various biblical scholars. I also believe it is impossible to translate the unfiltered pure word of God into a man-made language. Every language/culture has it's own biases.

58 posted on 04/06/2013 10:12:50 AM PDT by varyouga
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