Posted on 04/05/2013 1:05:05 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
Good point.
Leni
The survivors should sue them to the limits for letting this happen. Maybe a few of these lawsuits will change that behavior!!'
It is a difficult problem. Heck, there ARE people who shouldn’t be walking the streets, and society once DID find a way to get them off the streets. I think everyone can agree that there are indeed people who shouldn’t be living at large in society.
The question is, where does one draw the line at “YOU can live in society” and “You CANNOT live in society”...
But, as another poster said, it is also true that giving the government powers of incarceration for mental status CAN (and did) end up with tyrannical states like the Soviet Union using it for their own ends.
We were taking people off the streets at one time in this country without being the Soviet Union, and while it is true that the conditions in many of those places were bad, it was also true that it likely wouldn’t be worse than what many of those people had on the street, except that someone else was paying for it.
Whitman had a brain tumor in the region that effects strong emotion. Received poor medical care and his problem went undiagnosed - we all know what happened next. The sad fact is that he was as much a victim as the people he killed.
Yeah. They all look like Pelosi and THIS guy...
It sounds like the pizza driver's (Leon) family is hopping mad and I'm sure they are looking into a lawsuit. It's really sad that the Department of Corrections' screw-ups got their own leader killed in addition to Leon, who appears to have been murdered just to get his Domino's shirt and pizza box.
And please, I know, the people responsible for these murders are the murderers. I'm talking about failures to take preventive measures, not who is criminally responsible.
Death threats are enough to do an investigation. They wouldn’t have had to look far to see what he was buying or what he was hiding in his apartment.
Why would campus police even have any jurisdiction here? It seems like the equivalent of reporting a rape at work to the security at the front desk.. Sure, it might be a nice thing to do, but it wouldn’t replace going to the real authorities.
Are colleges independent nations, like Indian tribes—or what?
Everybody knows that college cops are more like mall security than anything else.
Their prime incentive, with no doubt honorable exceptions, is to minimize the reported or investigated “crime rate” on campus.
A campus cop who starts making a lot of waves is likely to scare off students and parents and therefore have a short career.
Quite right.
But in the final analysis some human must be given the power to make that decision, and in our society, for better or worse, we have this whole bit about due process.
Some doctor's hunch or opinion is at best problematic as a way of deciding who gets locked up for years.
Travis, you forgot to include a mug shot of a certain mulatto Marxist
Homo I know!
This 5 minute video mentions how and why.
Bullseye.
The numbers for Stalin are probably underestimating significantly.
Too often they don’t intervene because they haven’t been trained how to intervene, or given the authority or the discretion. Then there is the question of WHO. Who made the decision not to act. The doctor, the cop, or someone higher?
I don’t think we disagree much.
I always like to take a situation like this and drive a stake in both ends, then get people to speculate on where the line in the middle goes.
We have all seen people that there is 100% no doubt they should be institutionalized.
And then we can all look at people and say 100% they shouldn’t.
All the contention comes around with that gray area, and where you divide the issue into one or the other.
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