Posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by raptor22
“Just where do you plan on getting the electricity to run all of your electrical devices that managed to survive?”
Well actually you should be protecting batteries and objects that run on batteries.........among other items
The radius of effect would not be that large from a single nuke and the effect on electronics would not likely be that severe.
We and the Russian detonated hundreds of atmospheric nukes. EMP was noticed but it wasn't a game changer. Yes, a most of our components aren't hardened, but then a lot of them are inadvertently hardened via their location.
And the Norks aren't going to deliver a hydrogen bomb, but a low yield nuke with a low yield EMP.
Ahhh... a rare voice of reason amongs the hysteria that so many Freepers are subscribing to. We are a strong and smart people - made even stronger by our stockpiles of privately owned defense tools.
I can’t believe how the media is “hook, line, & sinker” victimizing so many normally steadfast Freepers.
It’s sad.
Again, they only have a very low yield nuke and it’s doubtful they could even launch it....
If Russia or China did it with a high yield nuke that’s entirely different....
So if the NK was able to muster and successfully launch (BIG IF), I didn’t say it would be pretty but hardly a death blow to our entire nations infrastructure.... And the timeline to repair would be relatively short.....
Those large cities affected would have to be placed under martial law.
NK is not taking out the entire US with a single low yield nuke EMP pulse.
“Tell me oh wise one, why does it take weeks and even months to get the electricity back up after something as localized, relatively speaking, as a hurricane?”
I was born in the mid forties and we didn’t have electricity till I was in my teens. And no running water till I was in my late teens. We had a good life...
Today I would just go out and start up the standby generator.
You are touching on a very truthful point in the idea that there a chuck of FR that have planned for this situation. So much so that they pretty much welcome the idea of an apocalyptic US for the simple (but sorta scary) idea that they are tired of sitting around all their survival gear and not being able to use it.
“The Chinese and Russians could also do this.”
Why do it directly when your proxies North Korea and iran are capable and just waiting for you to give the go ahead?
When it happens, whether from North Korea or Iran, if US submarine and naval forces based outside the continental USA are able to respond the response will be against the client state and not China or Russia directly. All China and Russia have to do is decide how to split the territory, once the slaughter is over when the starving population devolves into anarchy.
North Korea only has nuclear capability because China and Russia permit it and have facilitated it. North Korea has provided substantial aide to the Iranian nuclear program. Again, it couldn’t happen if China and Russia weren’t allowing it.
It isn’t hard to figure out where this is all heading. When it does, thank Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski for spiking the bipartisan bill in 2008 that would have shielded the electrical grid from EMP. Also thank the free traders whose deindustrialization policies since 1990 have resulted in the US having no manufacturing capability to replace key grid components, including large transformers, after an attack. We now import them all. Not to worry, the Chinese occupation army will bring them.
Thanks, I probably will, now.
The “people” scare me more than anything.
Everybody calm down!!! Obama will take care of us. He has everything under control. Nothing to see here folks, move along move along...
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I am not saying launch nukes except at NK or the perpetrator(s). Just emps (yes I know they are technically nukes). Preventative leveling. I have no problem being set back a few years I am prepared and have the property means to sustain it. I just do not want us open to invasion because we chose a “higher road” and were above bringing everyone back in time with us.
There are worse things than having to rebuild our country after an emp attack, like having to do that while learning to speak Chinese or Russian.
Do most of the RED counties have water sanitation systems that run without electricity?
I lived in RED county suburbia for years. Nobody had their own water well. Few people had a fireplace. Surface water was MILES away. After 3 days it gets dicey with no clean water.
Suburban So MS and La prepped for Katrina. We knew she was coming. We know what to do in case of hurricanes. We were self sufficient long enough after Katrina that we made it.
How many homes in RED county suburbia do you think have even a weeks worth of food and water? How much of their food needs refrigeration? Oops, no fridges!
Do most of the RED counties have hospitals that can operate without key equipment or supplies? Don’t get sick!
Do most of the RED counties have grocery stores that stock themselves? How many grocery warehouses are located in the suburbs immediately around large metro areas? Hint: most of them.
Do you think your RED county neighbors ALL have a years supply of both clean water, food and a means to heat their homes in the winter?
Do you think all the populations in the blue cities will just stay put and starve?
Most of RED county infrastructure goes through cities. Your comms would be down, probably forever, if the cities burned to the ground.
Along with the people who run and maintain the bigger grid components.
You might be alive. But, to coin a phrase from Lucifer’s Hammer, you’d not ‘Control the Lightening’ for decades.
Well put. People love a chicken little story, but it isn’t quite as easy as it is portrayed. And even if it was, that nation still has to consider what the SSBNs will do to them in return.
Mutually assured destruction works just fine. And the Norks aren’t stupid. They have simply been conditioned over 20 years that bluster and threats, followed by a minor provocation, results in fool. fuel, money, supplies, and nuclear reactors being given to them.
And they correctly assess that the America-hating, bowing, gay marxist in the white house will appease them.
Your standby generator might be a large door stop after an EMP attack.
Does your water well have a hand pump capability?
Imagine our 30 biggest cities in riots worse than post Rodney King or MLK, and going downhill from there.
What happens to our economy when suburban commuters can't and won't travel into the cities?
There are not enough police, feds, military etc to quell 30 major city-wide riots that get worse and worse each day as starvation turns to rage.
When the music stops: how America's cities may explode in violence
Only our government can.
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