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Was Scott Fitzgerald's wife Zelda mad or just misunderstood?
Daily Mail ^ | 1st April 2013 | Ruth Styles

Posted on 04/01/2013 10:45:00 AM PDT by the scotsman

'She is remembered as a profligate shrew who drove her husband to drink before going insane, but according to a new book, that is not an accurate portrait of Zelda Fitzgerald.

In fact, it's a 'persistent, damning mischaracterisation that needs undoing' says author, Therese Anne Fowler, who argues that not only was the spoiled wife of Great Gatsby author, F. Scott Fitzgerald sane, she was also devoted to her husband.

Fowler, who began Z: A Novel of Zelda Fitzgerald wondering whether she really wanted to spend a year in the company of a 'hyperactive madwoman', says she soon discovered that almost everything she'd ever heard about the socialite was wrong.'

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bookreview; mentalillness; zelda
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1 posted on 04/01/2013 10:45:00 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

Interesting article. Fitzgerald sure could turn a phrase.


2 posted on 04/01/2013 10:57:10 AM PDT by Slyfox (The Key to Marxism is Medicine ~ Vladimir Lenin)
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To: the scotsman

“Tchaikovsky. Was he the tortured soul who poured out his immortal longings into dignified passages of stately music, or was he just an old poof who wrote tunes?” ~ Monty Python


3 posted on 04/01/2013 11:00:25 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX

But there are no fjords in TX.


4 posted on 04/01/2013 11:05:55 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: the scotsman

I used to drive by the old Sayre house when I visited our group headquarters in Montgomery. It was on Sayre Street, named for her Father, not Zelda.

I also read a book about Zelda maybe 20 years ago. I suspect she was probably insane toward the end but probably would have been OK if she had stayed in Montgomery, Alabama and married some local guy.

I do remember reading where when she met Hemmingway the first time, he quietly told Fitzgerald that Zelda was insane. Zelda told F. Scott that Hemmingway was a phony.


5 posted on 04/01/2013 11:12:23 AM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: the scotsman
I do believe Zelda became a born again christian in her later years.

It's very possible she wasn't nuts...just desperately unhappy from not being truly loved.

This lack of love can manifest in many ways. Much of the time the symptoms are misdiagnosed by phsychiatrists community who have largely been trained in gender Freudian gender "equality"...thus not knowing anything about the true human psyche and how to treat it.

6 posted on 04/01/2013 11:23:01 AM PDT by what's up
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To: the scotsman

I guess feminists feel like it’s time to rehabilitate the image of this woman.

Of course, the movie which is sure to come out about her is more BS from the Liberal MSM.


7 posted on 04/01/2013 11:34:33 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: the scotsman

When you live with an alcoholic you tend to get a little crazy. You don’t drive people to drink, they drink in spite of what you do and in the end it is all your fault.


8 posted on 04/01/2013 11:35:09 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki

Mental illness ran in her family. One of her siblings committed suicide, and one of her grandparents was insane.

She wasn’t Fitzgerald’s true love and I suspect she knew it. Ginevra King was. He almost backed out of marrying Zelda, but I suspect he gave in due to sheer passivity after losing Ginevra.

He and Zelda became what we call now “co-dependent”, especially once they became the Twenties’ glamor couple.

Or at least this my theory after reading tons of books about both of them.


9 posted on 04/01/2013 11:46:35 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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I will defer to you as I haven’t done much research.

I think co-depenent probably describes them well.

I just hate when other people are blamed for an alcoholic’s problem. I’ve known too many of them.


10 posted on 04/01/2013 11:57:08 AM PDT by tiki
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To: yarddog

I do remember reading where when she met Hemingway the first time, he quietly told Fitzgerald that Zelda was insane. Zelda told F. Scott that Hemingway was a phony.


And chances are they were both right!


11 posted on 04/01/2013 11:59:12 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

That’s just what I thought when I read that.


12 posted on 04/01/2013 12:04:06 PM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: the scotsman

Hemingway measured F’s penis in ‘A Moveable Feast.’ Zelda said it was under-sized.
Ernie assured him that it looks small when it is looked down upon.
Nothing to see here. Let’s move along ...


13 posted on 04/01/2013 12:04:48 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“The parrot ain’t dead, he’s pining”


14 posted on 04/01/2013 12:05:02 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“The parrot ain’t dead, he’s pining”


15 posted on 04/01/2013 12:05:25 PM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: mrsmel
The last love of his life was Shielah Graham, a journalist, who wrote a book about him and her called "Beloved Infidel". I read it when I was very young and I cried and cried...Here is what a critic said about it:

Autobiography, love story, and literary history, this classic memoir is "the very best portrait of F. Scott Fitzgerald that has yet been put into print". So wrote critic Edmund Wilson about this international best seller in 1959. Sheilah Graham paints an intimate yet objective portrait of Fitzgerald -- turning out screenplays in late-1930s Hollywood to pay his debts, frequently drunk and increasingly despondent over his declining literary reputation. Strengthened and encouraged by Graham, Fitzgerald started his last and most ambitious novel, "The Last Tycoon". Graham served as his model for the character Kathleen. Bit in 1940 he died in her home before completing the book. In "Beloved Infidel", Graham also traces her own life, a tale part Cinderella, part Pygmalion that begins in her native England. Her early career on the stage and in journalism led her to Hollywood and a thirty-five-year career as a gossip columnist. Graham died in November 1988.

16 posted on 04/01/2013 12:18:05 PM PDT by daisyscarlett
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To: the scotsman
It was about as far left a show as possible, but I always loved this quote from 'Designing Women':

JULIA SUGARBAKER:" I'm saying this is the South. And we're proud of our crazy people. We don't hide them up in the attic. We bring 'em right down to the living room and show 'em off. See, Phyllis, no one in the South ever asks if you have crazy people in your family. They just ask what side they're on."
17 posted on 04/01/2013 12:21:01 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: mrsmel
Or at least this my theory after reading tons of books about both of them.

i am curious... have you read The Paris Wife?

18 posted on 04/01/2013 1:16:01 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: the scotsman
What does it mean to be "mad"? Or what did it mean, since people don't use the word very much nowadays?

It could just mean one was fragile, flighty, "irrational," or not in control of one's emotions. One could have "fits of madness" being to all appearances "normal" most of the time.

I don't think anybody said Zelda had to be chained-up or straight-jacketed, just that she had trouble coping in the outside world.

P.S. Love the caption:

Scandalous: The behaviour of young flappers such as these was viewed with horror by the older generation

19 posted on 04/01/2013 1:23:23 PM PDT by x
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I had no idea that the guy on the Moxie can was F. Scott Fitzgerald!



20 posted on 04/01/2013 1:31:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (HRC:"Sometimes she looks like a primary schoolgirl and sometimes a pensioner going shopping,"-NKorea)
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