[PapaNew]

fortheDeclaration is trying to completely separate the new testament from the new covenant. I suppose you can say they are different because a testament is a will that contains promises and devises which are covenants. But the two go together and really are hard to separate conceptually as you say.

Separating the two is a novel concept to me and not according to the real world or scripture (Heb 7-10 among others) and leads to heresy which always happens when basic Biblical truths are denied.

[Springfield Reformer]

Agreed. BTW, ping to 116. Should have included you but the trigger finger was quicker than the brain. It bites not being perfect like these other folks. :)