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To: nitzy

“A man and woman committing to each other to form a single familial unit and attempt to produce children out of that union is as natural a thing as exists. That is what marriage is. If a man and woman do that, they are “married” whether a state recognizes it or not.”

This is not the case. A marriage is a contract before divinity, whichever god that may be. Your bond is sanctified by the deity, and you are bound to the marriage laws of that religion. What you describe is simply monogamy. Two people can commit to each other, have kids, yet never be married.

Even so, I agree with the gist of what you’re saying. It’s not government recognition that makes a ‘marriage’. If a union has no traditional foundations in faith, it cannot be a marriage, and in this country’s Judeo-Christian tradition, marriage is and always has been

One man and one woman unrelated, over the age of consent, and consenting.

In India, it’s a little different, seeing as you don’t have to be of a certain age nor give consent. In Islam, polygamy is recognized marriage. But NOWHERE is there a historical basis for homosexual marriage. There’s a reason for it.

Some official in Massachusetts or some black robe that Obama threw on the Supreme Court doesn’t get to define marriage. They have as much authority as any vagrant. Marriage is defined by scripture, and for us. That’s the Old and New Testament. As someone said before. It was never Adam and Steve.


58 posted on 03/26/2013 4:31:37 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
Some official in Massachusetts or some black robe that Obama threw on the Supreme Court doesn’t get to define marriage.

But at one time they understood God did: General Laws:

CRIMES, PUNISHMENTS AND PROCEEDINGS IN CRIMINAL CASES

TITLE I.

CRIMES AND PUNISHMENTS

CHAPTER 272.

CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER

Section 36: Blasphemy

Whoever wilfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously [without respect; in a disdainful manner] reproaching God, His creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior.

Section 38: Disturbance of assembly for worship

Whoever wilfully interrupts or disturbs an assembly of people met for worship of God shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than one thousand dollars.

Section 14: Adultery

A married person who has sexual intercourse with a person not his spouse or an unmarried person who has sexual intercourse with a married person shall be guilty of adultery and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in jail for not more than two years or by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars.

Section 15: Polygamy

Whoever, having a former husband or wife living, marries another person or continues to cohabit with a second husband or wife in the commonwealth shall be guilty of polygamy, and be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in jail for not more than two and one half years or by a fine of not more than five hundred dollars; but this section shall not apply to a person whose husband or wife has continually remained beyond sea, or has voluntarily withdrawn from the other and remained absent, for seven consecutive years, the party marrying again not knowing the other to be living within that time, nor to a person who has been legally divorced from the bonds of matrimony.

PART IV.

Section 17: Incestuous marriage or sexual activities

Persons within degrees of consanguinity [related by blood] within which marriages are prohibited or declared by law to be incestuous and void, who intermarry or have sexual intercourse with each other, or who engage in sexual activities with each other, including but not limited to, oral or anal intercourse, fellatio, cunnilingus, or other penetration of a part of a person's body, or insertion of an object into the genital or anal opening of another person's body, or the manual manipulation of the genitalia of another person's body, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 20 years or in the house of correction for not more than 21/2 years.

Section 18: Fornication

Section 18. Whoever commits fornication shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than three months or by a fine of not more than thirty dollars.

Section 34: Crime against nature

Whoever commits the abominable and detestable crime against nature, either with mankind or with a beast, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than twenty years.

Section 35: Unnatural and lascivious acts

Whoever commits any unnatural and lascivious act with another person shall be punished by a fine of not less than one hundred nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than five years or in jail or the house of correction for not more than two and one half years.

Section 16: Open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior A man or woman, married or unmarried, who is guilty of open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior, shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than three years or in jail for not more than two years or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars.

77 posted on 03/26/2013 7:32:14 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Viennacon

Good points.


103 posted on 03/29/2013 6:17:29 AM PDT by nitzy (You can avoid reality but you can't avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.)
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