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To: Olog-hai
The EU is a project of the elites, not of the people; the vast majority of countries have had the EU rammed down their throats, and that is a fact.

Come on, your exaggerating badly here. I know they re-voted in Ireland till they "got it right", but I don't think there is a majority in ANY Eurozone country to leave right now. And come on, Germany? The people punish Merkel by voting for the SPD - an even bigger supporter of the Eurozone than CDU/CSU. I agree with you that the elites sold this thing. I've already told you I think it's goal was enable massive social welfare states without the potential competition (among other reasons ofcourse).

It's a mistake for you to assume your disdain (perhaps hatred) for the EU is shared by most Europeans. It's just not the case. Even with all the troubles, bailouts, etc, most Europeans still seem determined to make the EU work. I think its stupid. If I were the Greeks, for example, I'd have used the opportunity to walk away, but they didn't. I don't believe for a minute that parties like Syriza and Golden Dawn will likely last in Greece. Those are just protest votes. In the end the people don't want to leave the EU and they will go along with pretty much any bailout program once they think the EU won't budge.

46 posted on 03/26/2013 4:15:14 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Most of the protests in the EU are not covered due to their being so numerous. If you think they have press freedom in the EU, think again. Populism is on the rise indeed, but it won’t break the EU apart; rather it’s going to make the elites more entrenched and the people less free, which is one of the goals of the euro.

With all due respect, you are talking like one of those people that think that China has abandoned communism, which they have not; the direction the USA is going as a result of trading too freely with them is evidence of that (“state capital[ism]” is in the Manifesto). On a similar note, do you think that Vladimir Bukovsky is exaggerating when he makes his comparisons of the European Union to the Soviet Union? He called the EU a “monster” that ought to be destroyed ASAP. Read his words carefully.
52 posted on 03/26/2013 7:21:58 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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