[muawiyah]

No, that's not the correlation at all. The guys whose polls looked correct FIXED their data to move it toward the trendlines they'd been developing all season ~ a number of them have described the steps they took to clean the data ~ Gallup ruined itself early on by asking every respondent about their sexual orientation. As word got out on that the gay guys and gals made sure they answered every call from a pollster.

Romney's internal polls ~ for which he paid a fortune ~ may have misled him with Mormons and rich people answering every call from every pollster!

[chopperjc]

As much as this pains me ppp was consistent and on the number all through the cycle blowing your theory up.

[Longbow1969]

The guys whose polls looked correct FIXED their data to move it toward the trendlines they'd been developing all season

What is this gibberish? We had thousands upon thousands of state and tracking polls that showed the same thing throughout the 2012 campaign. It was fairly consistent, and Nate Silver's model (just an example) was aggregating the polls and providing statistical odds the entire way through. Obama was winning, all the way through the campaign - and the polling showed this clearly. Romney got a bump after the first debate, but it was never enough. The polls are a matter of record. You could go back to RCP and look at them. Nobody changed them after the fact. We lost by 5 million votes man, it really wasn't all that close. The folks on our side that disputed the polls have largely admitted they were wrong, why can't you?

Your point that I responded to was the following:

As I've been explaining since last summer, the use of polling to determine public opinion has collapsed to utter nonsense.

And that's just wrong. You shouldn't have been saying this since last summer because it's utter nonsense.