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David Limbaugh Column: Trouble Brewing In the GOP
NewsBusters ^ | 20 March 2013 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 03/24/2013 1:55:44 AM PDT by zeestephen

For the first time, I am wondering about the long-term viability of the Republican Party. I say this not as an advocate of its demise or restructuring but as an observer of troubling signs.

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To: kenmcg

“Wait til next year when the full force of Obamacare kicks in”
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Your admonition WILL be proven to be a wise prediction. Aside from the severe cost impact on everyone, and the degredation of vital services in medical care, the system itself is not workable. Experts who have studied large and highly complex systems have long cautioned against attempting to implenment a “big bang” approach like Obamacare. It simply cannot work because of its massive complexity and will fail. The only large systems that work (at least to some extent) are those that incrementally grew and evolved over a very long time.


41 posted on 03/24/2013 6:28:10 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: no-to-illegals

“See your point but the rats would never do that ... there would not be anyone or a country to bleed for their sustenance.”
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Absolutely true. Good post. The Rats need and bleed the Makers.


42 posted on 03/24/2013 6:30:29 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: faithhopecharity

“McCain/Portman in 2016?”

Far too reactionary!

In its efforts to “cross the aisle” the GOPe plans to run a Joe Biden/Ellen Degeneres [Biden will be bumped by Hillary, and seeking revenge], or maybe a Barney Frank/Elton John ticket, just to show what a “Big Tent” group they are.

On second thought, when they really look at demographics, they’ll shed their “Party of the Old Folks” image by running one of the Kardashians with Dennis Rodman.

(need I say it? /sarc)


43 posted on 03/24/2013 6:31:20 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("To learn who rules over you simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"- Voltaire)
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To: zeestephen

It’s really simple. If you do well, you keep running things. If you don’t, you need to leave. Many don’t want to leave the gravy train.


44 posted on 03/24/2013 6:32:54 AM PDT by Vision (Obama is king of the "Takers." Don't be a "Taker.")
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To: Starboard
Thanks FRiend but was only typing what we all knew ... nothing special typed by me.
45 posted on 03/24/2013 6:36:54 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: zeestephen
If you claim to be libertarian and your big issue is gay marriage, you belong in the democratic party. It is incredibly short-sighted to want to re-make the laws for 300 million people because they are inconvenient for a tiny fraction of one percent of the population.

Doing that is in no way libertarian. It is just declaring that tiny fraction of the population to be more important than everyone else.

46 posted on 03/24/2013 6:46:41 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: palmer
Then there's no need for me to read the rest of his article.

Yes there is. He goes on to say...

I belong to the school that believes the Republican Party must remain the party of mainstream Reagan conservatism rather than try to become a diluted version of the Democratic Party. This does not mean Republicans can't come up with creative policy solutions when advisable, but it does mean that conservatism is based on timeless principles that require no major revisions. Conservatives are champions of freedom, the rule of law and enforcement of the social compact between government and the people enshrined in the Constitution, which imposes limitations on government in order to maximize our liberties. If we reject these ideas, then we have turned our backs on what America means and what has made America unique. What's the point of winning elections if the price is American exceptionalism?

I refuse to acquiesce to the cowardly notion that conservatives are intolerant or mean-spirited because they oppose discriminant treatment for groups and classes of people, because they support the rule of law, because they oppose a runaway entitlement state and because they adhere to traditional values, including the protection of innocent life.

See what you miss when your head is in the sand?

47 posted on 03/24/2013 6:47:58 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: zeestephen
I believe that the disappointing results for Republicans in the 2006 elections and probably the 2012 elections, as well, were in no small part attributable to frustrated conservatives staying at home.

Rush has said that several times recently and now his brother. And Rush has expanded it by saying that Romney actually pulled a few million independent voters from Obama, but the loss of conservative votes more than offset that.

I think this might well be correct, but have not seen any polls or other evidence to support it. Has anyone seen an analysis with supporting data that arrives at these conclusions?

48 posted on 03/24/2013 6:49:56 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Russ
I sure don’t have an answer but someone needs to come up with one soon.

It's called a REVOLUTION. Clearly the ballot box is broken and the country is run by MOB RULE. About time that ended. (See tagline.)

49 posted on 03/24/2013 6:52:57 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: All
Repub stupidity--compounded by the likes of conservative haters like Karl Rove and self-serving neocons--has led us to disaster.

No question---Obamatons stole the 2012 election. Every swing state showed RAMPANT VOTER FRAUD but nobody stood up to challenge it.......even as Repubs dominated state Secy's of state who have jurisdiction over voter fraud.

As FReeper hinckley buzzard insightfully posted: "They overlooked Dem's secret weapon: "early voting" scams in those crucial key states---they knew every voter in their precincts-- and had a plan to get every one to the polls. Days of early voting and extended hours enabled them to herd their masses into busses and take load after load bodily to the polls---how they got 100% votes in black precincts.

The stupid GOP had no such organization, and, apparently, had not even the faintest idea of what the DNC had been doing the last four years. The downtrodden post-2012 GOP seems more interested in running people off than in GOTV efforts.

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Dems are still giving thanks over at The Church Of Whatever Works For Me that Romney was so stupid and easily duped.....a dumbo RINO who was used to having his lunch money taken by the schoolyard bully.

CASE IN POINT Candidate Ohaha bragged he was so-o-o popular he was being showered with campaign contributions from avid supporters----and had the first billion dollar campaign in US history.

Did Romney issue a statement asking the FEC where all the Ohaha reports were----as required by law----WRT where Ohaha spent all that money? Did Romney ever publicly dress down "billion-dollar Obama" on O's later statements about his need to borrow money for his campaign?

CONCLUSION (with a hat tip to Shakespeare) "Stupidity, thy name is Republican."

50 posted on 03/24/2013 6:53:49 AM PDT by Liz
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To: zeestephen

The paid off McCain wing is problem that needs to be fixed.


51 posted on 03/24/2013 6:58:32 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: All
Does GOP Establishment Stupidity Have Any Limits?
GOP USA | 3/22/2013 | Chris Adamo / FR Posted by IbJensen

EXCERPT Once again, those “moderates” of the Republican Party inner circle are exhibiting a determination to obliterate any lingering shred of credibility left in the GOP.

Appearing in the shadow of a stellar CPAC 2013 gathering this past weekend, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus outlined the results of an introspective analysis of the party’s lapses during the November 2012 elections. Predictably, the advice from the self-anointed “experts” is to move the party further left in order to persuade its opponents of a general willingness among the party hierarchy to abandon principle in a futile quest for votes.

The venue from which Priebus issued his statement, the National Press Club, reflects the Beltway Insider environment that has wrought nothing but a string of political disasters for Republicans in recent decades.

Yet, among those who believe that Washington has all the answers, and that the American Heartland is made up of unsophisticated rubes, the reality on Main Street is of little consequence.

“Experts,” the very same experts who gave us Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney as the “most electable” candidates, now assert that the core principles which have defined the Republican Party are the root cause for its current unpopularity in the public eye.

Thus, the marginalization of those principles is the best course for the party as it seeks to resurrect its image in the public eye. Go figure. --snip--

52 posted on 03/24/2013 7:01:50 AM PDT by Liz
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To: txrangerette
The article develops the idea that not only the party, but the conservative movement itself is split.

It is split on probably more than one issue. For me it's gay marriage. I don't want to be part of a Republican party that wants the gay vote in order to win fiscal issues.

53 posted on 03/24/2013 7:03:17 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Giving attention to a politician is like giving neck to a vampire.)
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To: driftless2
At least, that’s what the “experts” say. So they’re telling us that we could get people to agree with 90+% of our positions, but if we don’t give in on homo marriage, we’ll lose them.

So far leftist fiscal policies are not causing enough pain. It isn't that bad to be unemployed when you have endless entitlements coming your way. It's hard for the right to make a case for the potential to get rich with people that just want to make a living and have a beer and a Harley ride at the end of the day.

The giant digital counter that says 16,500,000,000,000 isn't concerning enough people either.

54 posted on 03/24/2013 7:07:36 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Giving attention to a politician is like giving neck to a vampire.)
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To: zeestephen

Lincoln got elected due to party division watering down the supposed shoo-in.

Let’s get it on.


55 posted on 03/24/2013 7:10:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Jacquerie

The Whig party that died is not the Whig party that gave us our independence.


56 posted on 03/24/2013 7:12:09 AM PDT by DManA
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To: zeestephen
I see my more libertarian-oriented conservative friends on Twitter, for example, wholly frustrated with conservatives who refuse to surrender on the social issues...

Look, David, it doesn't get any simpler than this: "Winning" the social issues, or immigration, or neocon imperialism all require more big government power and more big government guns.

Enough is enough.

The only unity platform that a plurality of conservatives, libertarians, Evangelicals, Catholics, white, Black, Hispanics, older and younger voters can possibly agree ever on is the limitation of government power over the individual. There is no legitimate expansion of government possible from this near-tyrannical low point in American history - only a steep and serious reduction in Federal police power and regulation can get us back to a baseline where we could possibly again begin to build a free and prosperous society.

So every time we "libertarian-oriented" types hear conservatives calling for stronger government or new 2,000 page laws to attack some symptom or other, we yell out "Stop! Fix the root problem instead!" If we don't - if we can't - the Left rushes in to take advantage of the new law in ways their opponents hadn't considered and wins every single time.

Doubt it? How did that Patriot Act work out for everybody?

57 posted on 03/24/2013 7:15:30 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: muawiyah
because that's what works here.

It isn't working any more. Our two party politics created the existential threat facing this country and two party politics refuses to face the truth of this crisis. Both parties are in denial.

Sorry, I have no idea how to "fix" the two party system or what to replace it with.

58 posted on 03/24/2013 7:19:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: kenmcg

That’s why we need to stop calling it Obamacare and start calling it Democratcare. Obama is a lame duck. We never have to face him in an election again. Don’t lets put all the blame on his soon to be irrelevant shoulders.


59 posted on 03/24/2013 7:23:43 AM PDT by DManA
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To: zigzagzoom
It may take decades to replace the Republicans but there are things that could be done right now:

1. Close all primaries except to registered Republicans

2. Embrace the Tea Party

3. Never let the MSM pick moderators for OUR debates

4. Demand that at least 2 presidential debate moderators be chosen by Republicans

5. Get rid of the beltway based political consultants

6. Prohibit the RNC from contributing to any candidate in the primaries

60 posted on 03/24/2013 8:05:41 AM PDT by anoldafvet
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