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Ready for the apocalypse! One American family shows what it takes to prepare...
Daily Mail ^ | 3/23/13 | RYAN HERMAN

Posted on 03/23/2013 6:34:00 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Starstruck

” If you think your chances are better being a loner I have no problem.”
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A loner?
Hardly...I am surrounded by friends and relatives.
I have a number of American and European friends in my neighborhood. Several of us gather at 4 PM each day for a few beers in a shaded garden by the seaside.
The only supply that i need is food, and I have all one could want.
I have a sea full of fish, just 100 feet from my door.
A number of my neighbors are fishermen that go out each morning. They buy their ice from me.
I live in the vegetable capital of Cebu, with mountains full of all the veggies and fruit one could ever want.
The local market, just five min. by bicycle from my house, has maybe 100 vendors of fish, meats, poultry, veggies, fruit, baked goods, and household needs.
It is all low cost.
Life is nice.


81 posted on 03/23/2013 8:22:30 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: JRandomFreeper
You Bum...that sounds wonderful!

I will follow your apocalyptic posts for good advice after the SHTF.

/;-)

Spring is just arriving here and hope to plant a few good veggies.

82 posted on 03/23/2013 8:22:42 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Get armed, practice in the use of your weapons, get physically fit, stay alert!)
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To: donna; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper
I got a city worker at my door who said they were flushing the fire hydrants because the Fire Dept. uses them for training and they let dirt into the system - happens all the time!

That's not quite correct.

The fire department uses fire hydrants for fire suppression, training purposes, and--in some jurisdictions--the fire department flushes the hydrants to check them and measure how much water they flow. At no time does the pressure in the water main go negative, which means that no outside contaminants can or do get in.

What does happen, however, is that the flow of water through the mains is vastly greater than normal. This causes rust to be washed from the inside walls of older cast iron mains into the water flowing through the mains.

The brown color is due to rust. It may taste "off," and you sure as heck don't want to wash any clothes with it, but it is perfectly safe to drink.

If the water company has a problem that causes the pressure in the mains to drop to zero, it is theoretically possible to draw in contaminants from outside the water system, but that is not the fire department's fault.

83 posted on 03/23/2013 8:23:27 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: JRandomFreeper
“Like hell. I'd ‘HELLO THE HOUSE!’ waving a white flag and getting permission to proceed before knocking on your front door.”

Just yell, “JRandomFreeper here!”, and I'll let you in. Just ignore the front door mat that says, “Come Back With A Warrant”. I just ordered that and it should be here this coming week.

If we really had a disastrous situation, I would make sure I looked like a disheveled old lady. I wouldn't wear my shirts that have my initials embroidered on them. Wouldn't wear anything that looked like I might have a working brain.

84 posted on 03/23/2013 8:26:43 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Kartographer

Without working class rural experience: no technical capabilities, no running vehicles (assuming the scenario presented in the article) and no fuel. They would be immobile. The few who would have mobility, would be marooned in remote areas they fled to (probably at check points set up for looters), surrounded by the more capable rural locals.

But all in cities, they’d be easier to feed and govern. Television broadcasting and receiving would probably be the priority. And junk food production, of course. ;-)


85 posted on 03/23/2013 8:27:35 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kartographer

Lanza’s mother, BTW, received $240,000 per year alimony from her ex. Was she a member of the “prepper” class?


86 posted on 03/23/2013 8:29:11 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Marcella
Part of this post of yours is misleading, but I won’t go into it.

Do go into it, we can't have bad information going out, and since I am the guy who helped you learn about some things related to batteries and such, tell me what is misleading so that I can know.

87 posted on 03/23/2013 8:29:18 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: rmh47
In my case, it's not the FD. I'm not going to blame them.

Having had family in the business of water and sewage treatment plants and lines all my life and seen that side of life.... I will blame the city. Last time was a pump that overpressurized a line that failed and did siphon sand. The sensors on that system were circa 1950s.

I understand they upgraded to SCADA and appropriate sensors.

/johnny

88 posted on 03/23/2013 8:30:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

Nope. Not ready. Doubt I ever will be.


89 posted on 03/23/2013 8:30:48 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
“Most of mine is in the 4/5/6 gallon food grade containers I use for making beer.”

Again, we come to the part where I'm a girl and can't carry the weight a man can. Those 4/5/6 gallon containers couldn't be moved by me. I bought Ozarka in their almost gallon bottles that are thick and made to stack on top of each other. If the emergency hit, I would then use those bottles over and over to put good water in and be able to stack them. Two stack just fine and are stable, three is kind of iffy they won't fall over.

90 posted on 03/23/2013 8:34:05 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: atomic_dog

He’s not even close to being ready, if that’s all he has.


91 posted on 03/23/2013 8:35:01 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
“Lots of special equipment indicates lack of fundamental skillsets.”

Very true, and something many “prepper” people don't yet seem to grasp.

It's very unlikely that your __ month supplies will help your long term survival chances, if you are unable to contribute more than that to a new adhoc tribe of survivors.

92 posted on 03/23/2013 8:37:48 PM PDT by sarasmom (The obvious takes longer to discover for the obtuse.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Thanks! The -4 functionality is important in this neck of the woods—roughly 5 months out of the year.

While minus 4 should suffice for most people, especially since the real problem would be less with a handheld flashlight that goes in and out of your pocket, than with a head lamp that would be fully exposed to low temperatures, possibly for a long time, as long as you stay with the aa/aaa format you can keep on hand a few Energizer Lithium batteries which handle minus 40F, they are expensive but have a 10 year shelf life.

93 posted on 03/23/2013 8:40:35 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: ansel12

I’ll deal with it in Freepmail.


94 posted on 03/23/2013 8:43:24 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Smokin, search and you will find em. They handle from AAA to Ds, and sometimes even larger. We are testing out a small one now. Wifey bought it, much smaller, so not that impressed, but IIRC, a bigger unit may run about 50 bucks. I think hers were maybe 25$.


95 posted on 03/23/2013 8:44:26 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Marcella
I didn't say I could carry it full of water.

I can drag it out of harm's way if it's full of beer though. :)

/johnny

96 posted on 03/23/2013 8:45:34 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Pox

The key is to have a close unit of 5-6 families or at least males and the weapons for them.


97 posted on 03/23/2013 8:46:21 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Marcella

As long as it is about batteries it needs to be on the thread.

What correction or opinion about batteries could possibly need to be secret or private?


98 posted on 03/23/2013 8:49:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: Kartographer
"The show hasn’t met with broad approval within the Prepper community, perhaps because it sheds light on a more sinister side of the movement, one that generated headlines when it was reported that the mother of Sandy Hook killer Adam Lanza was a Prepper."

"Nancy Lanza, Adam’s first victim, was shot four times before her son embarked on a killing spree at Sandy Hook Elementary School, murdering 20 schoolchildren and six teachers before taking his own life."

From the article, what the UK is publicizing about the topic. Meanwhile, our western culture business, academic and political constituent leaders continue to feed the new panic and hysteria in many ways (even some government offices presenting unlikely disaster scenarios).

Fascinating from the point of view of one who is more to ordinary work and peaceful living than television or other popular media. It's all quite a fad. I've seen enough to know when we're more likely to simply get physically poorer and quieter than to go out in a vainglorious display of anarchy.


99 posted on 03/23/2013 8:50:49 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: sarasmom
Everything that HAS to be done to stay alive can be done with a rock and skillsets.

I'm the decendent of ancient people that used rocks and sticks to wipe out the wooly mammoth, and others.

Mostly.. it's a matter of some basic training and an attitude adjustment. But most things are.

/johnny

100 posted on 03/23/2013 8:51:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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