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To: Nachum
And the TYPE of ammunition they are buying?

The majority of the bullets purchased by the DHS as part of its 2 billion round ammo buying spree were hollow point bullets (one order alone amounted to 450 million of them). Hollow point bullets just happen to be completely unsuitable for training purposes because they cost significantly more money compared to standard firing range bullets. This debunks both the ‘saving money’ argument and the ‘for training purposes only’ claim in one fell swoop.

http://www.examiner.com/article/feds-explanation-of-hollow-point-bullets-raises-more-questions

14 posted on 03/22/2013 6:25:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred

What I would like to know.....WHO is manufacturing these orders?


16 posted on 03/22/2013 6:31:29 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: bigheadfred
....I asked a TSA agent about this....

and he replied (with a straight face)....

They just going to take the bullets out and re-melt them into regular rounds...and re-install into the casings....

and as for the 2750 light IED resistant vehicles.....

"they all for border patrols"

...I think this guy is missing a great career as a comedian...

26 posted on 03/22/2013 6:50:13 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: bigheadfred

Hollow points are used for training. Hollow points have always been used for training even before DHS existed.


39 posted on 03/22/2013 7:30:44 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: bigheadfred
Good point on the hollow points. These are unsuited to anything other than killing humans, or "stopping" an assailant.

And all this talk about some relationship between this procurement and the shortages of available ammo is bogus. A red herring, a shinny, shinny object, to confuse reporters who are just catching up with this year old story.

What's the story on the armored vehicles? Are they expecting IED's?

What I want is the procurement story - alone and in whole - addressed, without all the bulls*it about Alec Jones, and crap.

If the federal government is procuring supplies in anticipation of an insurrection, it amounts to a declaration of war on the people.

"All war is based on deception." - Sun Tzu.

56 posted on 03/22/2013 10:37:49 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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