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Myself | 3-22-2013

Posted on 03/22/2013 12:52:54 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: My Favorite Headache
"He said psychiatrists and psychologists are going through some serious problems right now and they are completely turning all cash only. No insurance at all."

Sure. Republicans are compromising with Democrats to take away the Second Amendment rights of mental/neurological patients and couples who accuse each other of yelling at each other sometime during their lives (restraining orders, misdemeanors). Patients are probably avoiding being stripped of the constitutional rights.

In CO, there's a new law against anyone accused of domestic violence possessing firearms (like the VAWA that Republicans in Congress helped to pass). That's one of the laws that the NRA is silent about. The NRA is urging members to write letters only against three of the new CO gun control laws--not all of them.

The rights of one subgroup at a time will be violated by both political parties, until the rights of all who aren't rich (from recirculating debt), socially liberal and pathological are violated.


101 posted on 03/22/2013 5:11:14 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: PotatoChop
I was confused because what I read did not square with what I know about OCA or my experience as patient. No basis in law from what I read in original post. Further I spent many years in the business operations of health care, exiting not long ago, and I still follow it quite a bit. Private pay relationships are separate from the dictates of obamacare. Nobody has to take my word for it. From a Forbes article:

"Consider a concierge or “direct pay” physician. More and more primary care doctors are establishing “concierge” practices. Patients pay an annual fee in exchange for guaranteed 24-hour telephone access and longer personalized consultation time for complex medical problems (as opposed to the rushed 15 minute appointments common in many overcrowded primary care practices). Most concierge physicians will also act as your advocate if you require hospitalization for a serious illness, coordinating your care with the various specialists based on his detailed knowledge of your full medical history. “Direct pay” practices are similar, but without the annual retainer. Because you pay your physician directly, he is not beholden to the government or other third parties. Concierge practices can be a win-win for both patients and physicians. Physicians spend more time with their patients and can practice according to their best medical conscience, for reasonable reimbursement." http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2012/11/13/5-ways-to-protect-yourself-against-obamacare/

The EO obama issued clarified an earlier statment saying oca prohibited the asking abt gun ownership in the home saying it did not prohibit it. It was not an order that it must be a part of any office visit. I saw my doc not long ago and we talked abt many things, but the issue of guns never came up. This is large, prominent practice, btw. Oh I think obama would like to compel the interrogation, but that would cause too much friction. He is hoping to encourage the discussion, softly, that is what he is up to.

I am rabidly opposed to govt involvement in hc but it is important to accurately understand the climate in order to organize opposition to defeat it. Another thing, re the perils of EHRs, that is a valid concern: be careful and reticent in speaking with not only your doctor but nurses and administrators. Need-to-know basis and all that.

102 posted on 03/22/2013 5:19:15 PM PDT by Dysart ( Democracy is the road to socialism-- Karl Marx)
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To: maryz

Sounds interesting. I believe we are all going to have to turn to alternative methods, treatments, techniques, etc to keep ourselves healthy. Biofeedback is certainly a good way learn to lower you blood pressure...I don’t know what the limitations might be for someone with seriously blocked arteries, etc. I have used biofeedback and did lower my blood pressure with it. Consistently? Not necessarily, but if I had a worse problem, I’d be more inclined to stick with it.

And I’ve become a food saint. Dreadfully boring, but then, I’m in better shape than people 15 - 20 years younger. Not recommending any special diets...you have to experiment.

And then, of course, there’s regular attendance at the gym. Aaaaargh


103 posted on 03/22/2013 5:41:49 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: Mr. K

Answer to your poll:
I have been paying cash for three decades. Including a couple of bouts with cancer, I am probably two hundred thousand dollars ahead of the game.


104 posted on 03/22/2013 5:48:03 PM PDT by SisterK (Bill Whittle for president)
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To: ShadowAce

um, no. No underground doctors. Won’t happen. Besides, that doesn’t touch the big probelm, which is hospitals. All of you keep saying “doctor bills” when you mean “hospital bills.” I’ve been on this pony for ten years. Doctor bills are nothing compared with the hospital bills.


105 posted on 03/22/2013 5:53:20 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Dysart

I got a good friend in Medical Billing and he has not seen anything that would require the DR to do this. I think it may be an instance where the DR made a policy and wants to use the OBAMAcare act as cover.


106 posted on 03/22/2013 6:16:48 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: My Favorite Headache
I would ask your physician to give you the exact paragraph of the bill that addresses what you are being told to pay.

Simply say "Show Me" then look it up yourself. I think they may be trying to use ObamaCare as a cover to bill extra.

107 posted on 03/22/2013 6:19:50 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: Doogle
...they should be, this way he couldn't go any deeper in your wallet

if you need your appendix removed, I'll do it for only $200.00....all that medical school nonsense just raises the price on everything !!.......is that the right side or the left side....oh well, I'll find it...!

108 posted on 03/22/2013 6:37:19 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Twinkie

thank you for the suggestions - do you have a link for Dr. Campbell’s Daily Dose


109 posted on 03/22/2013 6:38:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: maryz

Oh, yeah. I bought the Resperate machine a few years ago; for me it was way overpriced, and it didn’t work like they claimed. It was a tiresome and boring exercise machine, very expensive; but, hey, I’ve tried lots of things over the years. If just one thing works, it’ll be worth every penny I’ve wasted. Garlic capsules were the first thing I tried; if only it had been that simple!


110 posted on 03/22/2013 6:39:13 PM PDT by Twinkie (Straighten up and fly right!!)
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To: maine-iac7

Just key in Dr. Wm. Douglass Campbell and Daily Dose on your search engine. He has lots in his archives, sells a lot of stuff but you don’t have to buy. - He’s about in his 70’s I guess, is a former Navy flight surgeon, has testified before Congress; some pooh-pooh him and try to smear him; but I’ve found him to be mostly common sense and human. Doesn’t try to ram his opinions down your throat, but much of what he says is a blessed relief. Uses real research for most of what he says. I’ve found his suggestions have really helped my husband with his glucose levels. I like him.


111 posted on 03/22/2013 6:50:01 PM PDT by Twinkie (Straighten up and fly right!!)
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To: Dysart

It is felony insurance fraud to have two fee schedules - one for the government/insurance company and one for private payers.

The status quo is highly unstable, by design - the only thing Obamacare was ever intended to do was to destroy what we have now, and it’s halfway there.


112 posted on 03/22/2013 7:07:45 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
It is felony insurance fraud to have two fee schedules - one for the government/insurance company and one for private payers.

This is how dedicated boutique/direct payment care practitioners are able to function legally, but not practices who maintain a pvt pay fee schedule who also bill third party payers, right?

113 posted on 03/22/2013 7:17:06 PM PDT by Dysart ( Democracy is the road to socialism-- Karl Marx)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Thank you for posting this. My lib boss complained just this week that the psychiatrist she took her kid to wanted $400 cash up front. She did not know why, but she voted for it twice.


114 posted on 03/22/2013 9:25:35 PM PDT by informavoracious (God help us.)
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To: CyberAnt

My Father is 90. He has Lymphoma (in remission) and his Oncologist just sent him in to get a CT Scan.

Now I’m wondering if the Doctor sent him to get it done before it wouldn’t be available / approved.

Looks like I’ll have to ask some questions when I take my Father to the Doctor next month.

Oh yeah, the Scan was negative. Eight years in Remission from Stage Four Lymphoma, amazing.


115 posted on 03/22/2013 9:51:42 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Twinkie

THANK YOU


116 posted on 03/23/2013 12:35:50 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Westbrook

“If the wrong people get mad enough, there’s likely to be some ventilating of public office holders that voted for this abomination.”

During the Hillarycare debates, I remember one politician saying that if it passed, the voters would be “hunting Democrats down with dogs.” I concur.


117 posted on 03/23/2013 1:01:07 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PLMerite

1990s was an entirely different country and older generations were alive still that knew better. Every day we are losing 20, 000 baby boomers on average leaving us with more of the 60s generation running or (ruining) the show and they are doing their best to make sure their communist and socialist teachings, ideology, and laws are left for a new generation to build on....and they have won. Won by taking over our schools, media, and entertainment industries.


118 posted on 03/23/2013 6:35:34 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Twinkie

I’m sorry; it’s Dr. William Campbell Douglass, not Wm. Douglass Campbell. I always get it backwards.


119 posted on 03/23/2013 11:34:33 AM PDT by Twinkie (Straighten up and fly right!!)
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To: My Favorite Headache

We private pay everything and get great medical care. The liberals that voted for Obama can simply perish from lack of proper medical care. Suckers.

Between aborting themselves, having terrible eating habits, violence, and lousy or no healthcare, they won’t be lasting long.


120 posted on 03/23/2013 11:57:28 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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