Posted on 03/21/2013 8:14:02 PM PDT by MBT ARJUN
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If true, then the Indians just made a conventional warfare quantum leap over the rest of the world. Too bad Obama doesn’t believe in America making great strides forward.
They can defend against anti-ship missiles fired at them that go just as fast. A supersonic cruise missile is just a larger target. However, like you mentioned a hail storm of these might be effective.
I’d be more afraid of supersonic submarines...
You;re almost right. Not outrun, outfight.
With a subsonic cruise missile the CIWS defence has to knock it out between 4km (when the fire control can first identifty it as a threat) and 1Km (after than, even if you destroy the guidance or flight control, the "dead" bird may still make a ballistic hit) that's about 10 seconds for a subsonic missle.
Now make the missile Mach 3. Far engagement range is the same, close engagement range moves out to 2Km. So 2/3 the engagement window at 3-4 times the speed. Time to target and hit goes down to 2 seconds.
I’ve always wanted a supersonic submarine. Makes is easier to sneak up on enemy submarines.
Keep in mind too, for you doubters out there, the BrahMos is already active in the Indian military. This latest test is just of the *sub-launched* version. There’s already a land and a sea-surface-launched version in active service.
Now, if the Indian sub guys can just talk Russia into letting them use the Shkval supercavitating torpedo, China’s dream of a blue-water navy will have to take an extended hiatus.
Plenty of time for a RAM or Gatling gun system to take it out.
A swarm is of concern (5 < x < 10), but these are can be dealt with as well.
After that though, a ship is probably boned.
See Oztrich Boy’s reply above:
“With a subsonic cruise missile the CIWS defence has to knock it out between 4km (when the fire control can first identifty it as a threat) and 1Km (after than, even if you destroy the guidance or flight control, the “dead” bird may still make a ballistic hit) that’s about 10 seconds for a subsonic missle.
Now make the missile Mach 3. Far engagement range is the same, close engagement range moves out to 2Km. So 2/3 the engagement window at 3-4 times the speed. Time to target and hit goes down to 2 seconds.”
LOL! Until they hit a reef doing 800mph. I wonder what an underwater sonic boom would be like?
BrahMos is a joint venture between India and Russia. Think Russia will have a market for missiles capable of knocking out US ships?
The faster the terminal velocity, the less time the target has to react with anti-missile systems.
And arm DHS - Domestic House Stormers - to the teeth...
And the integration of air launched version for the Su-30MKI is already underway.
Bit of hyperventilation in the article. The Brahmos is not the world’s first supersonic sub-launched CM. The Russians had the SS-N-19 Shipwreck for almost 30+ years now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-700_Granit
I know for a fact that the Sunburn scared hell out of the Navy in the mid-80s.
Again, I may have understood the article incorrectly, but that's what I gleaned from it.
I also know in the past there is one case (by India btw) where they used an anti-ship cruise missile (the Styx) as a jury-rigged land-attack cruise missile (when the Styx was used against Pakistani naval base, taking out facilities that directly or indirectly took out most of the Pakistani navy during that war). Thus, I am sure an (for example) Oniks could be jury-rigged into a land-attack cruise missile. But I still think, maybe incorrectly, that the BrahMos is the first submarine-launched, supersonic, cruise missile.
Seems the Russians could have developed a ground attack version had they wanted to. But the supersonic capability is not nearly so desirable as in ship attack, and they had plenty of subsonic cruise stuff.
The flexibility of the Brahmos is impressive if it all works. Not sure how cost effective it is though.
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