ABC News: Senator Ted Cruz And 7 Other Politicians At The Heart Of Birther Conspiracies

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[Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) is at the center of the latest "birther" conspiracy. But he's not the first to face this line of questioning.

A handful of politicians have been targeted in the last few years with the same accusation -- that they are not fit for the Presidency because they do not meet the constitutionally-mandated eligibility requirement of being a "natural-born" U.S. citizen.

Confusion around who qualifies as a "natural born" citizen has contributed to the debate, as the Constitution does not explicitly define the phrase. Some incorrectly presume it only includes people born within the boundaries of the United States. In fact, by U.S. citizenship law you can be American "at birth" or a "natural born citizen" under a few circumstances that don't involve being born on the mainland. For example, if you're born on a U.S. military base abroad, like in Panama, that counts. You are still categorized as being American "at birth" if one or both of your parents are U.S. citizens and fit a list of long and complicated requirements that arebroken down here.

Check out our list of politicians who have battled "birther" claims.

[SvenMagnussen]

You said, in a previous message, there were no Court proceedings that have reached the discovery stage was dismissive of the discussion on Obama’s Certificate of Naturalization being examined by a Court of Law.

The objection to an Obama appointee must be before trial. The usurper’s appointee must stay the proceedings and schedule a hearing on the allegation the appointment violates the Appointments Clause of the Constitution. A usurpers appointments are not valid if an objection is lodged before adjudication begins.

The criminal trial is stayed and a civil matter begins with an allegation ... the President is a usurper because he naturalized as a U.S. Citizen, naturalized citizens are not eligible to be President, an appointment by a usurper is invalid if there is an objection before adjudication by the usurper’s appointee.

[Seizethecarp]

“The objection to an Obama appointee must be before trial.”

If a plaintiff has no standing and/or the court has no jurisdiction the plaintiff cannot file a motion for the judge to recuse himself/herself.

Several eligibility cases have gone up to SCOTUS for conference and requests/demands have been made for Barry’s appointees Sotomayor and Kagan to recuse themselves from conference. They have declined. It is entirely up to a SCOTUS justice whether or not to recuse themselves, and I expect that would be the same at the federal district trial court level and appeals court.

[Seizethecarp]

“The criminal trial is stayed and a civil matter begins with an allegation ...”

Again you prove you do not understand the difference between criminal procedure and civil procedure.

A federal criminal case can only be brought by and arm of Barry’s executive branch that ultimately reports up to Eric Holder who has “prosecutorial discretion.” Of course, Holder will not authorize any prosecution of Barry.

[GregNH]

Catholic Social Services of Connecticut was the only provider of the Federal Foster Care program to take custody of an unaccompanied minor with foreign nationality at a Port of Entry in Hawaii.

Hi Greg,

I checked with our immigration services director who said that Catholic Social Services (one of our former names) did not provide services for unaccompanied refugee minors during the 1970s. She suggests that you check with Child and Family Service to see if they provided this specialized service. Great question! Celeste

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From: Greg

Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 3:16 AM

To: Celeste

Subject: RE: Website Inquiry

Thank you very much for the reply.

I am doing some research and am being told that "Catholic Family Services" would have been the organization who would take custody of an unaccompanied minor arriving from a foreign shore. The time frame was about the 1970's. Is this something that you would have been involved in? Greg

[SvenMagnussen]

Second sentence, last paragraph ... "The Lutheran Immigration Refugee Services and the United States Catholic Conference are the two largest voluntary organizations that assist with the [Office of Refugee Resettlement] program and placement of minors throughout the U.S."

Obama was placed with his grandmother after his grandmother was named his guardian. Catholic Social Services of Connecticut did not work with INS, HHS, ORR to place unaccompanied minors taken into custody at U.S. ports of entry. Catholic Social Services of Connecticut administered legal custodian services for children with foreign nationality after they had been placed.

This is why it is important to subpoena Obama's entire Form SS-5, Application for SSN, without redaction. His SSN was applied for by his case manager at CSS of CT. The name and address of his case manager will appear as the return address on his Form SS-5. The complete record of documents used to prove Obama's eligibility for SSN, acknowledgement of fraud (if any), acknowledgement of duplicates, etc. appear on his complete and unredacted NUMIDENT file.

Like his birth certificate, Obama or anyone else with a SSN, can fill out a simple application form and pay a fee to obtain a certified copy of his original Form SS-5 and NUMIDENT file. I cannot expose Obama's original Form SS-5 and NUMIDENT without his expressed written permission or a Court Order. So, Obots and ConcernedFreepers choose to demand I expose Obama's ineligibility and only ask Obama for a certified copy of his COLB.

[GregNH]

Sven, I so want to believe you, I really mean that. But here is my hangup. If the SSN was properly applied for at the time you claim it would be unique to Obama, if that is the name they used. He is using a number that belongs to a dead man. Now either you are wrong or the number you claim was issued to him through CSS in CT is a different number.

[SvenMagnussen]

Obama’s NUMIDENT file will explain it all. It is uncommon for children in the Federal Foster Care program to have duplicate applications, multiple SSNs and a SSN issued from a state they have never resided in.

The NUMIDENT file from SSA which accompanies his original SSN will explain it all in coded form. Obama is entitle to receive and examine a certified copy from the SSA. A Court or a Court appointed officer can subpoena the NUMIDENT file.

The NUMIDENT file also contains coded information on the proof submitted to verify eligibility for a SSN. Natural born citizens use a certified copy of their birth certificate. Permanent Resident Aliens use copies of their immigration file to establish eligibility for a SSN.

At a minimum, obtaining a certified copy of Obama’s NUMIDENT will tell us what paperwork he used to verify eligibility for the SSN.

[SvenMagnussen]

“It is uncommon for children in the Federal Foster Care program to have duplicate applications, multiple SSNs and a SSN issued from a state they have never resided in.”

That should be ...

It is not uncommon for ...

[Fred Nerks]

...He is using a number that belongs to a dead man.

Greg, pardon me for asking this, but I've been out of the loop for a while on the matter of the SS number. Can you tell me WHO the 'dead man' was, and did anyone actually SEE the SS application for 'him'?

[GregNH]

The number was issued to immigrant man born in 1890 on March 28, 1977 in CT and first used by Zippo in 1986. Susan Daniels is a private investigator from Ill who originally broke the story. A Google of her will bring up many pieces.

The original story is the Jean Paul Ludwig owned the number and coincidentally died in Hawaii in 1981 with apparently no family to claim benefits from SSA and SSA at the time was not informed of Mr Ludwigs death. I did find one FR thread here. I am sure there are many. It was confirmed that Zippo did in fact use that SSN, 042-68-4425, on his Federal tax return of 2009 and that number does not pass E-verify, a system that will give you pass or fail when checking on a prospective employee for proper papers. You punch in the name and the number and SSA will give a pass or fail for a match or non-match. Zippo gets a fail.

[Fred Nerks]

Thanks, I’m aware of Susan Daniels’ work - to a certain extent - but what I do not recall is WHO identified the SS number AS BELONGING TO LUDWIG?

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/time_to_ask_obama_abut_his_social_security_number.html

Now comes Susan Daniels, Affiant, and being first duly sworn deposes and avers, on the date set forth herein below, that the following assertions are true on the basis of her direct personal knowledge, observation, and experience, as follows.

1. Affiant is and has been a resident of the state of Ohio since 1941.

2. Affiant has been a licensed private investigator by and in the State of Ohio since March, 1995 and is in good standing as a private investigator with the Ohio Department of Public Safety.

3. In pursuance of her occupation, Affiant is and has been able to access proprietary databases and acquire information from a variety of sources, including licensed investigation entities throughout the United States.

4. In August, 2009, Affiant, in the course of her private investigation practice, was engaged to investigate the background of President Barack Obama (hereafter the “Accused.”)

5. As a consequence of that investigation, Affiant has become aware of the following facts:

a. Accused uses, throughout the United States, the State of Ohio, and each of its 88 counties, the Social Security number 042-xx-xxxx. [Daniels uses the full number.]

b. At the time of issuance of that Social Security number, the Social Security Administration assigned Social Security numbers on the basis of the Social Security applicant’s state of residence and zip code.

c. At the time of issuance of that Social Security number, 042-xx-xxxx, Social Security numbers beginning with the digits “042” were issued only to residents of Connecticut.

d. Accused was not, in 1977, a resident of the state of Connecticut; nor has he ever been a resident thereof.

e. The Social Security number now used by the Accused throughout the United States, the State of Ohio, and each of its 88 counties, was previously issued to another person.

f. The Social Security administration never reissues Social Security numbers.

g. Therefore, the Social Security number used by the Accused cannot rightfully and lawfully have been obtained, misleading public officials.

h. Therefore, Accused has fraudulently and obtained, used, and continues to use Social Security number 042-xx-xxxx throughout the United States, the State of Ohio, and each of its 88 counties.

i. Therefore, Accused has violated and continues to violate ORC Sec. 2913.49 “Identity Fraud,” Ohio’s “Identity Theft” statute.

6. Affiant submits this affidavit, pursuant to ORC Sec. 2935.09, to the “reviewing official” in accordance with the mandates and prescriptions of said ORC section.

7. Further, Affiant sayeth naught.

The above statements are true to my personal and direct knowledge, observation, and experience, as I may answer to God.

Affiant

Susan Daniels

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[Fred Nerks]

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JKJG-LZK

JEAN LUDWIG

FAMILY SEARCH RESULT. FWIW.

[Fred Nerks]

I seem to recall now why I dropped the quest to find how or by whom it was established that the SS number for Ludwig was the same as zero uses. I never could get to the bottom of it.

[GregNH]

The Bounel name appeared earlier this year after a debt collector discovered a Harrison J. Bounel listed under the same address and using the same Social Security number as Obama.

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