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#DontStandWithRand (His amnesty speech was a pastiche of clichés)
National Review ^ | 03/20/2013 | Mark Krikorian

Posted on 03/20/2013 6:31:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Liz; cripplecreek; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...

Next amnesty subject is Ryan, who is their ‘best friend’ who you know is for path to voting.

Tomorrow he puts his smoke and mirrors ‘resolution’ out on the House floor again time #3 to keep the progressive Dems whining on TV, to provide smoke screen cover over his positions like amnesty.

And you know the ADD crew will fall for it again :
“Ryan is my best friend if Dems are complaining about his budget, Ryan 2016”

Dog whistle...

Yep, balances the budget in 10 years cept we have to wait 10 years after it is passed to ‘find out what’s in it’

ADD I say, the only explanation.


61 posted on 03/20/2013 7:39:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: sickoflibs

We need to define “amnesty” back to its true meaning. This blanket amnesty crap is nothing more than painting a smiley face on an attempt to overturn longstanding federal law by extraconstitutional means.

True amnesty is given on a case by case basis for things like humanitarian reasons.


62 posted on 03/20/2013 7:47:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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RE :”I don't love it but its acceptable with the stipulation that chain migration doesn't apply.”

You might have said this before to me today when I was overwhelmed with pings.

Yes, That is exactly the type of condition it requires.
In fact we been over-run in Maryland by LEGAL immigrants and that needs a similar reforming to chains(the whole family votes Dem now) .

Hey, I used to post regularly to remove birth-right for illegals(just last year) , but the tide has absolutely turned FOR THE WORST. I know better than to live in a fantasy world.

63 posted on 03/20/2013 7:48:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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To: cripplecreek
RE :”True amnesty is given on a case by case basis for things like humanitarian reasons”

And that's really the idea of what I am saying.
The GOP needs to approach it that way with the ‘brought here as kids and raised here’.
Demanding they get treated like criminals is just going to have zero chance of success. Note that Reagan wouldnt try that 30 years ago and now they are voting in huge numbers,

BUT remember, if it is vague the Dem POTUS will do just what O did with Dreamers. So to some extent it has to be spelled out.

64 posted on 03/20/2013 7:56:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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Okay fine. Just remember we have created a standard and let’s apply equally not just to Rand Paul or Marco Rubio; If a politicians is not in favor of mass deportation then that politician is favor Amnesty. Whether it be Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, or Allen West - it is either mass deportation or Amnesty.


65 posted on 03/21/2013 4:25:54 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz is my adoptive Senator)
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RE :”Okay fine. Just remember we have created a standard and let’s apply equally not just to Rand Paul or Marco Rubio; If a politicians is not in favor of mass deportation then that politician is favor Amnesty. Whether it be Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, or Allen West - it is either mass deportation or Amnesty.”

Your challenge does apply to many here, many who ping me.
Paul was trying to sweet talk them here.

I have been very clear on my standard.
My standard is no immigration reform that includes citizenship(voting), unless they really do get in back of the line which forms outside this country.

I unlike many here am for giving the ones brought here as kids (now adults) a break in a reform bill but not give them the vote, if they want to vote as citizens they can do it the way legal immigrants do, wait outside this country to legally immigrate.

Unfortunately Dems have made it clear ‘no deal without citizenship’ so Rub, Paul, Ryan have all jumpped on board the 'path to citizenship' rhetoric train.(Paul admitted it yesterday on Cavuto)

That being said we havent seen a agreed up-on bill. Just lots of flowery talk.

Thanks for mentioning the Momma Bear in that list, I needed a laugh.

66 posted on 03/21/2013 4:41:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs (O's sequester Apocalypse tour just proved why we need the 2nd amendment more than ever NOW!)
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” My standard is no immigration reform that includes citizenship(voting), unless they really do get in back of the line which forms outside this country.

I unlike many here am for giving the ones brought here as kids (now adults) a break in a reform bill but not give them the vote, if they want to vote as citizens they can do it the way legal immigrants do, wait outside this country to legally immigrate.”

This is also MY standard. It’s called ENFORCING THE LAW!


67 posted on 03/21/2013 11:31:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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I wonder about his opposition to electronic employee checks. Any thoughts on that?

That may go against people's free market instincts but it's pretty much the #1 most necessary step if you actually want to stop the problem, don't let them get jobs (or rent apartments or DRIVE).

Of course I doubt Rand or any of the Paulites are interested in actually stopping illegal immigration.

68 posted on 03/22/2013 1:28:06 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


69 posted on 03/22/2013 1:28:43 AM PDT by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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