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1 posted on 03/19/2013 1:56:47 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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you just can’t help but push amnesty on another thread can you.

How about border security and deportations?


2 posted on 03/19/2013 2:01:26 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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Text of Rand Paul’s comments

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/03/19/text-of-rand-pauls-immigration-speech/?mod=WSJBlog&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wsj%2Fwashwire%2Ffeed+%28WSJ.com%3A+Washington+Wire%29


3 posted on 03/19/2013 2:01:44 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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He says they’ll blend into the culture.

Right.

They’ll learn English with all the wimps around here and in leadership apologizing to them that we’re not learning Spanish quickly enough.

How about they can’t vote?

This is a travesty and it is totally, totally out of control.


8 posted on 03/19/2013 2:08:46 PM PDT by stanne
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There is no such thing as “probationary” legal status

The “probation” thing will be thrown out in a heartbeat, heck I would throw that out.


13 posted on 03/19/2013 2:31:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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OK I just heard Rand on the Hannity radio show and when Hannity asked him if border security would be first,

RAND SAID NOOOOOOO

The illegals would get work visas right away. Then we would work on border security. Congress is going to vote on whether the border is secure, what a joke!!

He told a heart warming story of when he was a young man working with illegals doing roofing jobs etc. That was a long time ago and really has no basis with illegal aliens today.


17 posted on 03/19/2013 2:53:30 PM PDT by jdirt
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Here is a solution.

Mandatory 4 years in the military or a lifetime of not being able to vote in any election.

Or you may go home and apply for citizenship after a 4 year wait.


18 posted on 03/19/2013 2:57:22 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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Rand Paul’s immigration plan: Border security before probationary legal status

How about visa enforcement as well -- and he can start now.

22 posted on 03/19/2013 3:12:18 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Paul praises the poet Pablo Neruda in his speech, and asks, "How can we not want that [Latin] culture to merge with and infuse the American spirit." Well, I can enjoy a poem -- just as well at a great distance -- and without feeling compelled to support citizenship for illegal immigrants. I appreciate many things about Latin culture, but its prevailing political inclinations are not one of them.

Because Paul's is a political speech, I think it's relevant to consider Neruda's political views. Neruda was a Communist. That's not the political culture I want to "infuse" the American spirit. (Persons who aren't familiar with Neruda can confirm this in Wikipedia -- "During his lifetime, Neruda occupied many diplomatic positions and served a stint as a senator for the Chilean Communist Party.")

26 posted on 03/19/2013 4:49:50 PM PDT by GJones2 (Paul neglects to mention that Neruda was a Communist)
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Here's a detailed Wikipedia account of Neruda's Communism. He not only supported Communism, but stood out from other prominent leftists in his refusal to denounce Communist abuses. I think of him as Borges did.
27 posted on 03/19/2013 5:04:18 PM PDT by GJones2 (Paul neglects to mention that Neruda was a Communist)
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> "I am a fan of Gabriel Garcia Marquez." [Rand Paul]

Another anti-American supporter of Communism. He's an admirer of Castro and "and for many years was denied visas by U.S. immigration authorities" (until Clinton overruled them). [Wikipedia]

I've read his novel One Hundred Years of Solitude (in Spanish), and though I enjoyed the humor at times, I consider it a step backward toward primitive irrationality.

28 posted on 03/19/2013 5:24:52 PM PDT by GJones2 (Paul says he's a fan of Gabriel García Márquez)
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The solution is simple and evident, yet everyone avoids/evades it. Here is the RIGHT plan:
1) Secure the border.

2) Declare a date certain, within 6 months, by which date every illegal must register and set a date, within the following 6 months, for processing within their legal country.

3) If stopped, for any reason, the person must have their registration with their upcoming processing date, or proof of legal entry. If they do not, they will be deported immediately and NEVER given the opportunity to return - FOR ANY REASON!

4) The illegal makes a choice. If they aspire to US citizenship, they must return to their legal country and go through the normal process, no shortcuts, no promises.

5) If they do not aspire to US citizenship they return to their country by the date stipulated on their registration papers, apply for legal resident status, allow for vetting and background legal checks. Possibly allow for expedited processing if they have family in the US and a job. But in no case will these people EVER be granted US citizenship, and in no case will they EVER be allowed to become wards of the state or receive any kind of government assistance. They will never be allowed to VOTE! NOTE: Anchor baby OFF! Their decendants will not be granted citizenship by virtue of being born in the US.

6) If a legal resident (non-citizen) commits a felony or certain types of misdemeanors (like attempting to vote), they will be deported and NEVER granted re-entry for ANY reason (even if their child is dying and needs their kidney to live...they will need to ship the kidney or ship the child).

7) If a legal resident commits an act whereby another person suffers loss, they must either make full restitution or be deported, as in #6 above. A third occurance will require restitution by seizure AND deportation.

Will they all register? No. But most will. And over time, the ones who didn’t register would be forcibly shipped home. And most importantly, most of them will choose the non-citizen option - thwarting the political designs of the dems.


29 posted on 03/19/2013 5:25:18 PM PDT by GilesB
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