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To: kabar

” Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here is amnesty”

Right. But Rand Paul’s plan will not give the illegals amnesty. They will be put on a probationary status. They will have to pay taxes and will not receive any new government assistance.


27 posted on 03/19/2013 2:29:24 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: BarnacleCenturion
They will be put on a probationary status. They will have to pay taxes and will not receive any new government assistance.

They will be allowed to stay and work here, the object of their crime. Green card holders are on probationary status. So will they have to get health insurance or be able to use the ERs as free medical clinics? What are the terms of their probationary status? Will all 12 to 20 million have to register their names and be issued ID cards? Will they receive work permits? Will their future children born in the US still be citizens? Will they be entitled to SS and Medicare since they are contributing to the system? What is the cut off date for their probationary status?

28 posted on 03/19/2013 2:52:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: BarnacleCenturion

And when the probation is up???

C’mon. RP said it himself: “legalization”.


29 posted on 03/19/2013 2:53:49 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The trouble with your comment “they will have to pay taxes” is that they usually don’t MAKE enough to pay those taxes. However, they WILL qualify for a rebate, AKA EIC, so in essence we pay them for filing a tax return.

We also give them jobs, provide them with free healthcare, assist with their food and energy needs, and educate their children. It’s a great deal for them, but for us....not so much.


32 posted on 03/19/2013 3:30:54 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

That’s like saying we won’t give shoplifters amnesty. Instead, if we catch them, we’ll just let them keep their stuff, and we won’t even make them come back to the store to pay for it, we’ll just come to their house and collect the money.

But it’s not amnesty. They are “waiting in line for thier stuff”. It’s just they aren’t actually IN the line, nor did they get in the line until they got caught.


35 posted on 03/19/2013 8:30:19 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: BarnacleCenturion
“Probation”

Rand Paul cannot be serious.

By Election Day, 2014, every Democrat and every major news organization in America will be comparing probationary status to “Jim Crow” laws in the old Confederacy.

47 posted on 03/20/2013 11:18:30 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Yes, the aliens have broken the laws, but so have their employers. And not just be turning a blind eye to the lack of documentation. Too many created working conditions that only a worker desperate for work would accept. Just for example, a white guy I knew was a roofer. He went to work for this contractor who dropped the crew off at a job in the country with only a watering can, and left them working in a hot sun for the whole day. The straw boss spoke almost no English nor did the rest of the crew and so working with them became hard just from a lack of communication. Even though he spoke some Spanish, several of the crew were from South Mexico and barely spoke . that language themselves. He stayed on the job until the roof was finished than after getting his pay, told the contractor what he thought. Though he was the most experienced man, the contractor just told him to pleasure himself. If the crew had been white, they would have all quit on him.


75 posted on 03/26/2013 12:05:06 AM PDT by RobbyS
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