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To: GeronL

No what’s wrong are people like you pushing simultaneously for deep cuts AND massive tax increases.

You get flat growth and with an economy dead in the water, you get massive social unrest.

Europe’s present course is not sustainable - economically, socially or politically. There’s no upside to it for European politicians who’ve sold Europeans a bill of goods.

The EU crisis will continue to worsen.


3 posted on 03/19/2013 12:50:28 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

When you borrow money, you are borrowing from an assumed productive future. For example, if you borrow $24,000 for a car, to be paid back in 6 years, you are predicting that you will make enough money back over the next 6 years to pay it back. If you do, great. However, if you don’t, you will lose the car, everything you have paid into the car, and you will have nothing. This is the nature of debt.

However, when you borrow money from your future, you are making a deliberate decision to reduce your future prosperity for a more prosperous present. This is not necessarily a bad thing, because by borrowing money now, you may be creating a more prosperous future, because having that car now allows you to take advantage of opportunities that you might not have if you didn’t have a vehicle to drive. However, it is not wise to borrow from your future to pay for things that do not contribute to your future prosperity, like vacations, video games, or fancy clothing, because if you do not have the money to pay these things back, then you must resort to outright theft by declaring bankruptcy and rob the people who loaned you money.

This is basically what Europe has done to itself. It didn’t just borrow money to create a productive future for itself. It also borrowed money on non-productive things like healthcare, pensions, and welfare based on the gamble that it had a future prosperity and could afford it all. Unfortunately, it’s prosperity has been less than it hoped and the debt it borrowed has grown.

The only ways out is to either cut its non-productive spending: education, healthcare, welfare, and pensions, until,the books are glanced or resort to outright theft to those that bought Europe’s bonds based on the promise that Europe would eventually buy those bonds back.


7 posted on 03/19/2013 2:27:02 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: goldstategop
It's not just Europe, this is coming to the USA soon too.

They may decide to 'manage' your 401k's.
They may just use the standard remedy and inflate - which is already happening. That way, they can steal even the money hidden in mattresses - technically, the money is untouched, but the value is drained from it.


11 posted on 03/19/2013 4:00:13 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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