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To: Monorprise

I’m afraid your suggestion would never work. It reminds me of when guys like Sean Hannity rattle off on the now-irrelevant fact that a higher percentage of Senate Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act. Or when he talks about “Robert KKK Byrd”. It all comes across as desperate, because it is all pointless.

It is no doubt true that some of the black, latino, and Asian support for Democrats results from the Democrats (and their media allies) branding the GOP as racist. But we have to face the fact that those groups simply favor the Democrat position on most issues. They are liberal groups, and they aren’t going to support the less liberal party.

Coulter is absolutely right about amnesty; it is a guaranteed vote creating policy for the Democrats. Most of those amnestied who go on to become citizens and vote, will vote Democrat. Most of the millions of relatives they will then sponsor through mass legal immigration will go on to vote Democrat. Most of the children of the amnestied illegals and chain migration legal immigrants will vote Democrat.

That’s just the way it is. The GOP should be offering it’s own version of comprehensive immigration reform, where illegal aliens are not given a path to citizenship, where chain migration is ended, where the Diversity Visa is abolished, where refugee settlements are much fewer and smaller, and where overall legal immigration is greatly reduced. They can try this and maybe it will work, maybe it will fail. But at least it would be a conservative alternative. And the alternative is to simply hasten the demographic destruction of the GOP.


44 posted on 03/16/2013 10:36:09 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius
And the alternative is to simply hasten the demographic destruction of the GOP.

“A nation that cannot control its borders is not a nation.”
Ronald Reagan

57 posted on 03/17/2013 12:56:29 AM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Aetius
Your conclusions are in error. That's because your assumptions about the way American political life works are also in error.

The Democrats cannot gain an overall majority for very long without running into the problem of there not being enough political largess to go around. There are only so many seats in Congress, or the Senate, and one President. He only makes about 900 appointments that require Senatorial vetting ~ and the state legislatures are also limited in political opportunity.

As the Democrats grow they end up short changing more and more of their followers ~ and eventually those folks look around for better opportunities elsewhere. That's where THE OTHER PARTY starts looking good!

You might ask when this ever happened and you'd be right to do so. First, Jefferson discovered the phenomenon that you needed to get 50%+1 vote to win an election, and if you could do that you were unstoppable. His new Democratic-Republican party put the Federalists out of business in the first contested election!

Within a few years several minor parties popped up but didn't get a major following because they didn't have popular policies. Finally the Whig party latched onto PUBLIC WORKS and the FEDERAL BUDGET! BINGO!!!!!! That was a major public policy coup. They began winning elections.

The Whigs attempted to hold on to their Southern wing by stepping aside from the slavery issue, and that was their downfall. They collapsed as a national party and a new party made up of Abolitionists and Whigs arose ~ we call it the Republican party.

Over the years since each party has gained and lost large factions, yet no matter how dominant either one has been anywhere in the country for however long, the end result is fairly evenly divided government.

Mathematicians ascribe the permanent split to the single member district ~ just as Jefferson observed 200 years ago.

Democrats might imagine, as you do, that they can create a permanent majority, but it doesn't work that way! Never did.

64 posted on 03/17/2013 4:55:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Aetius

As i think you know very good and well we dont have the power to pull that off and even if we did, it would not change the ultimate fate.

If you think these groups are natural democratic constituency then perhaps that explains the leftist political condition of the country they are fleeing from.

Encouraging them to leave those self-destructive policy preferences behind might yield a change.

You maybe convinced that too is hopeless but we have to try to find a way. Maybe we can try to do both. I know the house republican have already been trying what you suggest with no support from either the democratic senate or Obama for obvious reasons.


101 posted on 03/17/2013 11:06:18 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Aetius

“The GOP should be offering it’s own version of comprehensive immigration reform, where illegal aliens are not given a path to citizenship, where chain migration is ended, where the Diversity Visa is abolished, where refugee settlements are much fewer and smaller, and where overall legal immigration is greatly reduced.”

Worth repeating. Except that refugee resettlement should be abolished.


103 posted on 03/17/2013 11:23:05 AM PDT by Pelham (Marco Rubio, for amnesty, Spanish, and the Karl Rove machine.)
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