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To: JCBreckenridge

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***This says Cruz’s father had not yet become a citizen when he was born in Canada. I had read that he had become one. But this case, from Cruz’s spokesman, is based on the mother being a natural born American citizen - and I believe, at least 18 years of age. All this is saying is that “natural born citizen” means a citizen at birth, as opposed to a citizen by naturalization. It also implies that the problem comes if your birth mother isn’t a citizen, the problem doesn’t come from being born on a soil other than American, and also implies that the father’s citizenship at time of your birth is not controlling...***

(But of course there are those who will dispute this view.)


10 posted on 03/11/2013 10:10:06 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear..."(Glenn Beck))
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To: txrangerette

So Winston Churchill could have been our President?


14 posted on 03/11/2013 10:16:02 AM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: txrangerette

I am not an expert on any of this but I see problems with this interpretation. A mother who is a US citizen could be living in say Australia and has a child with an Australian. The child is a US citizen andd finally comes over to the US when he is 18. I would not view that child as a natural born citizen. I think youi have to be born in US and become a ctizen at birth. That’s just what makes sense to me and defer to others.


24 posted on 03/11/2013 10:32:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: txrangerette

Where to start?

“Native born citizen”, or jus solis, means born within the United States. Gov.Bobbie Jindal is a good example.

“Derived citizenship”, or jus sanguinas, means born of citizen parents. Gov. George Romney (father of Mitt Romney) was born in Mexico of U.S.citizens.

“Naturalized citizen”, is a foreign national who sought U.S.citizenship. Gov. Arnold Schwartznegger is an example.

All three above examples are “citizens” and can serve in Congress, either as Representatives or as Senators per Article 1, Section 2, clause 2; and Article 1, Section 3, clause 3.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=a2ec6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

THEY ARE NOT NATURAL BORN CITIZENS.

The term, Natural born Citizen, is not a type of statutory citizenship. It is ONLY an eligibility requirement to be President. Born in the U.S.A. (jus solis) of citizen parents (jus sanguinas).


34 posted on 03/11/2013 10:52:43 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: txrangerette

Among them would be Chief Justice John Marshall and Justice Joseph Story. But no doubt you are more knowledgeable on these things than they were.


95 posted on 03/11/2013 1:38:09 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: txrangerette

That was a good explanation, thanks!


116 posted on 03/11/2013 5:22:50 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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