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To: C. Edmund Wright

The cold, hard reality is that Steve Deace is annoying, self-righteous, completely convinced of his own infallibility, and wasn’t going to support Rand Paul anyway.

That said, it wouldn’t be surprising if Rand Paul spoke out of both sides of his mouth on any given issue. It’s what current politicians do and what he grew up with.


25 posted on 03/10/2013 7:53:20 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

“...it wouldn’t be surprising if Rand Paul spoke out of both sides of his mouth on any given issue...”

Except that so far, he hasn’t.


27 posted on 03/10/2013 8:07:53 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: jjotto

You may be right about Deace, and maybe even Rand as well - but I do have a passion to have the immigration debate handled intellectually honestly, and it is not there at this point. My life experiences over the past 22 years have allowed me some significant insight into the realities of immigration - and I fear that conservatives will needlessly split on this issue, allowing those who have our worst interests in mind to keep their power. I so wish people would realize the following, which I believe at the deepest level to be true:

A: mass deportation is not going to happen. Period. There is a moral case to advocate for it for sure. There is a legal case to advocate for it, for sure. There is an economic case to advocate for it, and one against it - but in reality, none of this matters - because it simply won’t happen - because it simply cannot happen. Cold hard fact.

B: Until the border is secured, no other issues of illegal Hispanic immigration really matter. You cannot do surgery, or attach a band aid, or anything else until the bleeding is stopped. Cold hard fact.

C: There are two distinct illegal populations, and while both are equally illegal, one is far more devastating to our culture and economy. That would be those lured here by give aways. This battle should always be fought with this in mind.

D: Most illegals who work do pay taxes under with holding. And they are not necessarily under paid. Many natives are paid under the table, especially in entry and labor related industries.

E: If we would solve our own union and government unemployment compensation problems, forcing the emergence of an American entry level workforce not afraid of physical labor, this problem would largely go away.

F: A secure border, plus the end of the give aways, would cause supply and demand to solve this problem within a few years. Supply and demand, plus a weak border of 60 years, has caused it. It won’t go away overnight, but if the incents are handled properly, it will self correct. Human nature is far more powerful than even a secure border...and a million pages of rules and regs.


28 posted on 03/10/2013 8:09:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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