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To: ansel12
Stalking would be if somebody were going to search and dig up old forgotten posts you'd made, but you've been very visible posting on virtually every Romney/Mormon thread. You and about two or three other people are famous here (well, it's a small world) for your posts about Mitt and his church. So when I find you posting the same thing on current threads about Catholics or women it doesn't take much to make the connection. I didn't have to do any special rummaging or foraging.

Hugh Hefner bigger than the radical leftist women’s liberation movement and Margaret Sanger, no, me not remembering the history unfolding before my eyes and in my reading in my life, no.

All kinds of groups issue manifestos making all sorts of arguments. Those arguments don't take root immediately. There are a few trendy, early adapters, but to really reach critical mass with a larger public, people have to feel the idea or ideology corresponds to their personal experience. Then, once the experience and the ideology become widespread, part of the natural environment of the age, a lot of people come to accept it without much thought. It's getting over that big early hurdle that makes the difference. The wave of divorces about 40 years ago or so -- men leaving their wives and children for the most part, at least at the beginning -- did a lot to convince women that feminism and big government spoke for them.

Surely this isn't a novel or controversial idea. You can find it in many conservative or neoconservative publications, at least when the writers were trying to explain a complicated historical process, rather than simply looking for easy villains to blame changes on. This relationship between ideas and experience is a major reason why simply "putting back the clock" doesn't work (or "putting forward the clock" for that matter). You can't just replace one idea with another if it doesn't jibe with people's experience.

If you had the power to turn all voting over to one sex or the other for a 50 year shakeout period and with all campaigning taking place in closed sites so that the other sex couldn’t hear the language used and the arguments made and the issues that those voters naturally gravitated to and chose to focus on, and hear the proposed solutions to what seem like intractable problems today, to to see if we could get things back on track within 50 years, which sex would you choose to be those voters?

Replace "sex" with "race" and maybe you'll get a better idea of how you sound.

169 posted on 03/11/2013 10:37:36 AM PDT by x
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To: x

Stalking is also your obsession with me to the extent that you got on this thread to make some weird and dishonest personal attack against me about things from past posts on far ranging subjects from candidate Romney to the Mormonism cult and all kinds of things that you don’t want criticized.

If you want to continue to defend and promote Mitt Romney and Mormonism then return to that thread and post there, discussions of candidate Romney would be in News/activism, and your religious defense of Mormonism would be made in religion, but don’t continue your personal attacks and attempts to hijack this thread into yet another Romney defense thread.

Try and focus on this thread alone and follow FR guidelines to not drag threads from one to another, to not create personal hatred of a freeper and carry it with you in a vendetta across the forum.

If you had the power to turn all voting over to one sex or the other for a 50 year shakeout period and with all campaigning taking place in closed sites so that the other sex couldn’t hear the language used and the arguments made and the issues that those voters naturally gravitated to and chose to focus on, and hear the proposed solutions to what seem like intractable problems today, to to see if we could get things back on track within 50 years, which sex would you choose to be those voters?

I think that your identity as a woman is making you a little off on this subject and unwilling to recognize the reality, scope, and success of the women’s movement, it is THE single biggest element in the destruction of America.


171 posted on 03/11/2013 11:58:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ( August 29,2008 A Natural Born Reformer inadvertently unleashed within palace walls, change ensues.)
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