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To: svcw

Talk about touching a nerve. There were a couple posters mentioning mercy. At no point did I refer to them. I was merely highlighting how when a very evil person, nominally Catholic, has a deathbed conversion, suddenly there’s no middle ground between Satan gnawing you for eternity and instant beatification. There’s a reason the church preaches eternal and temporal punishment for sins, exact
ly for cases such as this.
To say that there is no “stoking up the coals” on this thread is ridiculous.


94 posted on 03/09/2013 11:23:31 AM PST by Eepsy
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To: Eepsy

see post 82


95 posted on 03/09/2013 11:29:46 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Eepsy
I was merely highlighting how when a very evil person, nominally Catholic, has a deathbed conversion, suddenly there’s no middle ground between Satan gnawing you for eternity and instant beatification. There’s a reason the church preaches eternal and temporal punishment for sins, exactly for cases such as this.

There is no purgatory. Suffering to pay for sins is unscriptural. Only the shedding of blood cleanses us from sin and where there is forgiveness, there remains no penalty for sin.(Hebrews)

Forgiveness is forgiveness. A clean slate with sins remembered no more. The penalty has been paid and the debt is cancelled.

So, yes, if Chavez had a real, genuine, honest to goodness change of heart and repented and confessed faith in Christ to save him, he was saved, as the thief on the cross was.

I will not be surprised in the least to not see Chavez in heaven.

103 posted on 03/09/2013 11:44:57 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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