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To: daniel1212
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were Catholics, too. Both were altar boys as children.
19 posted on 03/08/2013 9:46:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were Catholics, too. Both were altar boys as children.

And then you have Mother Theresa types, but avoiding two extremes, what manner of Christians Rome overall fosters is an issue.

24 posted on 03/08/2013 9:59:14 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin were Catholics, too. Both were altar boys as children.

Stalin was a Russian Orthodox seminarian before declaring himself an atheist—he later had thousands of priests harassed, imprisoned, or killed. Hitler was baptized Catholic, but fell away in a pretty big way: He had his political party specifically condemned by the Pope and murdered thousands of priests and nuns, and millions of Catholic laymen.

30 posted on 03/08/2013 10:12:31 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Before turning atheist and communist, Josef Stalin was Russian Orthodox and a seminarian in that Church. It would not be surprising if a seminarian had been an altar boy in youth. Stalin was NEVER a Catholic, although the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church are quite close as to sacraments but still separated in several important ways.

I have heard that Hitler was a Catholic altar boy in his youth. He certainly did not die as a public adherent to Catholicism. His life suggests that his access to heaven was no better than Stalin's and for largely similar reasons of mass murder. Hitler also added to a mountain of crimes and sins, death by suicide, putting a gun in his mouth and blowing his brains out.

We Catholics believe that if a person with however vile a track record accepts a grace of final repentance, makes an act of perfect contrition (not out of fear of hell but for simply offending God and thus rejecting His love), then his sins may be forgiven by God. Many of Hitler's public sins were of a sort in which one such sin would excommunicate him latae sententiae. He did not have a lot of time between pulling the trigger and death and he would have been distracted by the pain. God certainly knows as does Hitler.

35 posted on 03/08/2013 11:21:42 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Josef Stalin was Georgian Orthodox.

Adolf Hitler was not an altar boy.

61 posted on 03/09/2013 4:25:35 AM PST by wideawake
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