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California GOP Needs Ideas, Not Just Money - What's an irrelevant party to do?
Reason ^ | March 8, 2013 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 03/08/2013 12:23:59 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
You try this?
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41 posted on 03/08/2013 5:42:40 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: douginthearmy

I’ve thought about this for awhile. In states like California the easiest way to get elected is with a D next to your name. Change party to Dem, get elected, and then vote as a ‘maverick’. As long as that D is next to your name you are almost guaranteed reelection.
Why not? We have plenty of Dems in the Republican party, they just won’t admit it.


42 posted on 03/08/2013 5:43:16 PM PST by sheana
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To: ansel12

You are correct about California’s lack of a moral foundation and the refusal to object to destructive behavior. It was founded by fortune-hunting, gold-digging, hard-drinking, gambling miners and thieves. And then the prostitutes showed up. Hardly the kind of stable, hard-working agrarian people our nation was founded by.

Having grown up in CA, and then marrying a lovely Tennessee girl and living in the South most of my adulthood, I have the Californian libertarian republican upbringing with a complete indoctrination into full-on Southern conservatism.

I believe the way to go is somewhere between the two. We must have a moral foundation and respect for others as well as for ourselves. We also must learn to mind our own business and stop trying to force our personal standards on others. Be responsible, be free, and don’t enable irresponsibility in others.


43 posted on 03/09/2013 6:53:03 AM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: EricT.

Lets see Eric, Florida goes for Obama and you’re bitching about CA?

lol....


44 posted on 03/09/2013 8:17:16 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: EricT.; ansel12
California’s lack of a moral foundation and the refusal to object to destructive behavior. It was founded by fortune-hunting, gold-digging, hard-drinking, gambling miners and thieves. And then the prostitutes showed up. Hardly the kind of stable, hard-working agrarian people our nation was founded by.

Where do ya think all those folks came from back then slick?

BTW, I'll take the fortune hunting, gold miners and hard drinking people that aren't afraid to take a gamble over the like of someone like you.

45 posted on 03/09/2013 8:21:50 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sheana

That is pretty much what the left did. It worked beyond their wildest hopes.


46 posted on 03/09/2013 8:28:05 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: dragnet2; EricT.
BTW, I'll take the fortune hunting, gold miners and hard drinking people that aren't afraid to take a gamble over the like of someone like you.

Where do you think they came from? If you open a crack house do you think that the people you attract don't share characteristics with each other at a higher rate than they share with average Americans?

I think what we are dealing with is that dragnet is very representative of what destroyed California, I get the impression that he is a social liberal, libertarian, anti-social conservative, the very thing that caused the destruction of California.

This is the very thing that we conservatives keep pointing out.

California had no true conservative religious base, so there was nothing for the left to have to overcome, it was always two versions of liberals fighting out the details, the true left easily rolled over the rino/libertarian left.

47 posted on 03/09/2013 11:05:47 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: EricT.
Having grown up in CA, and then marrying a lovely Tennessee girl and living in the South most of my adulthood, I have the Californian libertarian republican upbringing with a complete indoctrination into full-on Southern conservatism.

With your experience you know that it takes real Christian warriors, real right wingers to stand up to today's onslaught from the left, moderates and fence sitters, and people without that hard edge and without the absolutes where they draw the lines, can't stand up to the left effectively.

In times of political peace, moderates may be more pleasing to some than living among bible quoting Evangelicals, but during political war time, with the left fighting with blood on their faces and moderate guts in their teeth, only social conservatives and people who answer to God can stand up to them.

48 posted on 03/09/2013 11:15:25 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: dragnet2
Where do ya think all those folks came from back then slick?

Those were the dregs and ne'er-do-wells of the rest of the country. The good people stayed home.

49 posted on 03/09/2013 12:00:23 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: dragnet2

FL is still a battleground state. It’s not perfect, but not a basket case either. I still have far more personal freedoms here than I ever did in CA.

CA is and has been a lost cause for a long time. It hasn’t had a conservative governor for almost a quarter century. It’s been nothing but moderates and liberals since then.


50 posted on 03/09/2013 12:08:48 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: EricT.

The good people stayed home did they Eric?

Too dangerous to venture out west huh?

Too many Injuns?

You’re funnier than a barrel of monkeys Eric..


51 posted on 03/09/2013 6:37:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Thanks for the link, but I’m looking for someone who has a CA ping list already besides mine which is pretty big already. I want to work on flyover country.


52 posted on 03/09/2013 6:37:44 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: EricT.
California’s was founded by fortune-hunting, gold-digging, hard-drinking, gambling miners and thieves. And then the prostitutes showed up. Hardly the kind of stable, hard-working agrarian people our nation was founded by.

I'll take what you're smoken Eric!

53 posted on 03/09/2013 6:42:02 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: A CA Guy

California, Illinois, and New York will get federally guaranteed state bonds before the 2016 elections. I realize the fedgov is also broke, but this will string out the charade a few more years.


54 posted on 03/09/2013 6:46:57 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: dragnet2

You’re not worth my time arguing with. You bring no thoughtful position, just a bunch of hostility and insults.


55 posted on 03/09/2013 6:51:23 PM PST by EricT. (The Second Amendment is Tyrant Control.)
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To: EricT.
Hostility...Insults?

What do ya want from descendants of fortune-hunters, gold-minors and hard-drinking gamblers? We're all saddle tramps out here Eric...Ya want polite, thoughtful and Gray Poupon? Try New York, D.C., or Boston.

BTW, you have no argument junior.

56 posted on 03/09/2013 8:32:43 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: neverdem

McCoy: “The California GOP is dead, Jim.”


57 posted on 03/09/2013 10:26:51 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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