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To: silverleaf

Ya got me! I was thinking of the good angels. Lucifer, a fallen angel better known as Satan. It tells the story of a mighty one laid low by their pride and arrogance.
Do you notice how many times he says “I”, kind of reminds you of obama!!!! And verse 15 also gives you Obama’s destination. Amen.
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. Isaiah 14:12-15 (KJV)


70 posted on 03/03/2013 11:47:56 PM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Colorado Cowgirl
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Sadly, you have fallen prey to a medieval misinterpetation of this scripture. The "Lucifer" (literally the "light bringer", i.e. the planet Venus) of Isiah almost certainly refers to the city of Babylon ("weaken the nations", " exalt my throne above the stars of God", etc.). Several medieval interpreters confused this with a commentary on Satan (which is easy to do in an imperfect Latin translation)... but if you look at the context (starting with verse 4, which specifically mentions the king of Babylon), this verse is about the kingdom of Israel victorious over its former oppressors.

This is the only place where the the metaphorical term "Lucifer" is used... making it highly unlikely that it is an appellation for the Devil (who is called Satan in just about every other case in the O.T.). So, unfortunately, I don't think your scripture applies (though the sentiment is sound)...

133 posted on 03/15/2013 8:11:29 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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