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To: Alaska Wolf

Like I said. If we can’t win based on conservatism/our ideals, the ideals of the founders, then we already lost the country. We lost it because when abortion/gay etc is what the people want, it’s over. Franklin foresaw this when he made his statement about people voting themselves largess.

It’s that simple. When America ‘wants’ those things by default, and we can’t win based on what made America ‘America’ to begin with. That’s it. Over. Because people gave up on those ideals, abandoned principle and embraced liberalism. Nothing there for us to ‘win’ anymore. Maybe someday when the lib hangover sets in.

No one wants to face it, but it’s the truth. We can’t ‘will’ it to be something else anymore than the story about the 6yo boy that says he’s a girl. Likewise. we can call it America, but it ain’t. We can say conservatism lives, but until people start voting it, it’s dormant at best.

I wish it was not the case. But I do not see any other answer that fits the facts.


216 posted on 03/03/2013 4:02:02 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
We lost it because when abortion/gay etc is what the people want, it’s over.

Are you giving up? I'm not. This war between liberal and conservative isn't going to be won in one major battle. We conservatives have been losing ground incrementally for decades and that ground is going to have to be regained incrementally. We had made some gains in gun rights recently, so now the libs are attacking the 2nd Amendment with a vengeance again. Why don't conservatives choose and relentlessly attack one or two liberal sacred cows? Make them feel the pain.

230 posted on 03/03/2013 4:22:38 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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