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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Great, by that perverse logic, let’s legalize terrorism, so we can end the “war on terror”.

And on another level how does your notion of ending the war on drugs by joining the enemy impact state’s rights? Does the federal government have the power to decide illegal drugs are suddenly legal, constraining every state from the power to enforce their own drug laws against drug contraband shipped to their state through interstate commerce?

Of course not. The states must have consent. The federal government is Big Brother, but fortunately the federal government is constrained by the Constitution. If the feds were to suddenly legalize pot (as an example) then pot shipments from Washington state to Texas would still not be legal, unless Texas legalized it too, in addition to other considerations. Each state transited by the dope shipments have a say.


19 posted on 03/01/2013 12:30:35 PM PST by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: zipper
And, at one remove, of the War on Drugs that incentivizes such system-playing - nobody gets threatened by rumrunners seeking their stealthily-shipped hooch, because there's no incentive to stealthily ship hooch.

Great, by that perverse logic, let’s legalize terrorism, so we can end the “war on terror”.

How does the war on terror incentivize additional endangerment of innocent people?

And on another level how does your notion of ending the war on drugs by joining the enemy impact state’s rights? Does the federal government have the power to decide illegal drugs are suddenly legal, constraining every state from the power to enforce their own drug laws against drug contraband shipped to their state through interstate commerce?

Of course not.

I agree.

The states must have consent. The federal government is Big Brother, but fortunately the federal government is constrained by the Constitution.

So you support each state's right to legalize drugs within its borders without federal interference?

24 posted on 03/01/2013 12:36:52 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: zipper
And on another level how does your notion of ending the war on drugs by joining the enemy impact state’s rights?

A question?! How parochial and incoherent!

37 posted on 03/01/2013 1:40:45 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies ("The Lord has removed His judgments against you" - Zep. 3:15)
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To: zipper; JustSayNoToNannies
The big difference in the WOD is that the only burden of proof required to convict someone of a felony AND seize all their property can be a small palmable package. For most crimes there are victims, witnesses, unique property, etc.

A silver-dollar sized bundle of dope and a few empty baggies are all they need to plant on you to declare you a dealer and ruin your life. The cop gets promoted sooner and the government seizes your property. Corrupt local governments also use this system to imprison people at will. It happened to a friend of mine during a property dispute.

It happens all the time to innocent people and the cops typically get a slap on the wrist so they don't "talk too much":

http://wh8te.com/cowboy-cop-who-planted-crack-under-couples-car-seat-to-boost-arrest-quotas-escapes-jail-after-sobbing-in-court/

42 posted on 03/01/2013 3:42:59 PM PST by varyouga
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