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Store owners say plastic bag ban causes more shoplifting
www.seattlepi.com ^ | Thursday, February 28, 2013 | Casey McNerthney

Posted on 02/28/2013 1:50:46 PM PST by Lonely Bull

When the Seattle City Council unanimously passed a ban on plastic bags and required businesses to charge a nickel for paper bags, city leaders believed it would be better all around.

"I think we've gotten to a place where it's really going to work for the environment, businesses and the community in general," Councilman Mike O'Brien said at the time.

But the bag ban is contributing to thousands of dollars in losses for at least one Seattle grocery store, and questions have been raised about the risk of food-borne illness from reusable bags that shoppers don't often wash.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bag; bags; ban; grocery; owners; plastic; plasticbag; plasticbags; reusable; reusablebag; reusablebags; seattle; shoplift; shoplifting; store; theft
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To: UCANSEE2

lol


21 posted on 02/28/2013 2:27:05 PM PST by Girlene
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To: Lonely Bull

It’s always those damn unintended consequences that the fascists point out, like the gulag, and the bacteria in reusable bags, but it’s the noble intentions that count and matter!


22 posted on 02/28/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: upchuck

Love your tagline!


23 posted on 02/28/2013 2:30:54 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (This stuff we're going through now, this is nothing compared to the middle ages.)
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To: Lonely Bull
We already have it here in San Mateo Ca and the San Carlos city council just approved one yesterday. We now get to pay 10 cents for each paper bag and the cost will go up to 25 cents in 2015.
This is so stupid they first banned the paper bags and went to plastic but there was no cost to the shopper. Now they ban plastic and approve paper bags but now we have to pay for them and you can only use “approved” bring your own reuseable bags. I loathe any and all politicians screw them all!!!!
24 posted on 02/28/2013 2:38:46 PM PST by funfan
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To: funfan

Notice how the limbs never ban plastic bags used for newspapers.


25 posted on 02/28/2013 3:15:56 PM PST by aimhigh ( Guns do not kill people. Abortion kills people.)
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To: MrB
If you call a spoon a knife, how quickly can you cut your meat with your spoon?
Illogical. If you call a spoon a knife, there is no such thing as a spoon.
Only knives that cut well, and “knives” which don’t.

26 posted on 02/28/2013 3:28:40 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: WCH

Never reuse bags that have been used to transport meat. Meat juice nearly always gets contaminated with botulism, and heating the bags with hot water does not kill the germs.

Heating can kill the toxin (botulism poop!) that can kill you, but the germs are still there, waiting.


27 posted on 02/28/2013 3:30:44 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: UCANSEE2
"What I want to know is, what is a single use bag?"

Doggie poop bags.

28 posted on 02/28/2013 3:38:55 PM PST by Average Al
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To: funfan
We now get to pay 10 cents for each paper bag and the cost will go up to 25 cents in 2015.

This is a new cash cow for the politicians. Expect these fees to go up, and up, and up.

They now charge $.25 for paper bags in unincorporated Los Angeles County and in Long Beach. I refuse to shop in those areas.

29 posted on 02/28/2013 3:40:20 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Lonely Bull
F@@kers!

Nothing better to do than mess with the proletariat.

30 posted on 02/28/2013 3:50:53 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Revolting cat!
‘Course the effect on the beloved environment of washing reusable bags is outta sight, outta mind.

Heh. Don'cha know you're supposed to wash them in soap made from hemp and tofu? It's OK then.

31 posted on 02/28/2013 3:54:15 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment. -Ludwig von Mises)
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To: Lonely Bull

Man, I could have told you that. I won’t buy one of their overpriced (10 cents!) little bags. I leave the store with 5-6-7 things in my hands. No one looking at me can tell whether I paid for them or not. It’s a shoplifter’s dream.

These laws are MORONIC. And I am not sorry for the stores. They sat on their hands because they WANTED this law because THEY get to keep every 1000% markup on every bag they sell. I know it’s basically just ten cents, but multiply that by 200 customers an hour at your basic grocery store, 5 bags each, for 24 hours. Why that is $2400 pure gravy a day they are getting from customers.

So I hope the stores lose their shirts. In the meantime they are not selling me any bags.


32 posted on 02/28/2013 4:27:34 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
You're railing against the wrong villain.

I am sure that the retailers would prefer not to deal with this B.S.

Focus your anger on the perpetrators, not the victims.

33 posted on 02/28/2013 4:54:51 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Persevero

Impressive arithmetic. Lousy logic.


34 posted on 02/28/2013 4:57:29 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: MrB

I have one of those survival knife, spoon, fork, weapon combo thingies. No idea what it’s called though.


35 posted on 02/28/2013 6:00:40 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Responsibility2nd
You know what’s next, dontcha? They will begin to search your bags after you shop before you leave.

There's a chain of Asian supermarkets here, Pacific Super. They won't let you bring bags of stuff in; therefore you won't be leaving with any bags of stuff. Try arguing with Chinese clerks who don't know english. I got no where with them. (Shop there for my Chinese MIL, lots of stuff plus cheap prices .) This bag crap is ridiculous in the SF area.

36 posted on 02/28/2013 6:02:14 PM PST by roadcat
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To: UCANSEE2
Any paper of plastic bag that tears before you can get the groceries into the house.

One time I was leaving a sporting goods store (Big 5) and they had only used a single plastic bag. Imagine the looks on everyone's face nearby when the bag ripped open not 5 feet from the checkout counter and several boxes of shotgun shells fell to the floor, scattering the shells from the boxes. Calmly picked them up and demanded a double bag.

37 posted on 02/28/2013 6:08:17 PM PST by roadcat
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To: UCANSEE2

(That was really good!!)

38 posted on 02/28/2013 6:16:47 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: UCANSEE2; All

39 posted on 02/28/2013 6:20:32 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Thanks!


40 posted on 02/28/2013 6:56:11 PM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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