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Boeing touts fighter jet to rival F-35 — at half the price
CBC News ^ | Feb 27, 2013 | Terry Milewski

Posted on 02/28/2013 12:59:19 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’d love it if Boeing won this one!


41 posted on 02/28/2013 12:42:29 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Freeport

Thank you for an intelligent post. They are rare in the hyped up world of drones uber alles.


42 posted on 02/28/2013 12:47:16 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: CodeToad

At 300+ knots a few seconds can feel like minutes. Imagine closing your eyes for two seconds while driving down the highway at 70 MPH (don’t try this, disclaimer. A lot can happen in those two seconds.

Those seconds can mean a lot to a drone if a missile is headed its way. A pilot sees in real time.


43 posted on 02/28/2013 12:57:41 PM PST by USAF80
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To: USAF80

One problem - they are high maintenance jets and about a third of them are going to be deadlines for repairs or maintenance at any time.

Further, there is currently an unresolved issue with the oxygen systems on board the craft, so pilots are at risk and many won’t fly until that is fixed.

Next, many will have to be kept in reserve as replacements for ones that crash or are damaged - as no more will be made.

And the way the government is leaning, there won’t *be* any 35s to fill in.


44 posted on 02/28/2013 2:08:10 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Some of our allies wanted to buy F22s but we did not want the technology in their hands. The Japanese wanted them but when we said no they just developed their own.

It would have kept the manufacturing lines open for a lil bit and driven down the costs.

The F35 may end up like the 787. Too long to deliver and then plagued with serious design flaws.


45 posted on 02/28/2013 5:42:57 PM PST by USAF80
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To: Freeport
Do you realize that the communications lag on a satellite flown vehicle is measured in minutes?... Physics people... You are leaving out PHYSICS!

Don't know where you're getting minutes unless you're including some kind of intensive modeling or other heavy-duty calculation in the communication lag. Heck, the signal could go to the moon and back in a few seconds.

46 posted on 02/28/2013 6:12:56 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: muawiyah

T34 Calliope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T34_Calliope was not a Stalin anything.


47 posted on 02/28/2013 8:04:33 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: joe fonebone

F35 was always an international COOP thing rather than a valid asset.

It’s a scam.


48 posted on 03/01/2013 12:08:47 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Freeport

Yep. Remote has to mean autonomous, or it’s meaningless. But when that becomes reality, look out...


49 posted on 03/01/2013 12:13:41 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: rmlew
The T34 used as a base for the rocket launcher is always discussed in any piece on the Stalin Organ.

I hope you are familiar with that term ~ in the last week I've discovered several young people who had no idea what the term referred to ~

50 posted on 03/01/2013 3:34:02 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

There’’s a great deal of WWII armaments and terminology that’s more or less completely unknown today.

This one, for example, I knew well as a kid:

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt09/railway-track-destroyer.html

It figured in a six-volume work on WWII which is now long out of print.


51 posted on 03/01/2013 5:42:03 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: Hardraade

Wow, you learn something new everyday. I’m a big WW2 buff and never heard of this.


52 posted on 03/01/2013 5:51:52 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Hardraade
There's a PBS thing that actually showed track damage done by that device ~ been a few years since I saw the bit but it was part of one of their WWII event shows.

I think it came in the midst of something on bombing where the Allies actually tried to find these things and stop them. Remember, we didn't want ALL the rail ripped up ~ just the part that was useful to the Germans.

There's a pretty decent writeup in Wiki about the Stalin Organ but it scoots around the fact Americans were providing tank tracked chassis and transmissions ~ and even engines for the Russian rolling stock that served as armored mounts for those early mass rocket launchers ~ that rather identifies the article as Russian written and probably a fair rendition of what they were thinking back in the early 1940s ~ a real 'find' for Wiki. The writer at the time might have had no idea where the stuff came from. Spam was different ~ he'd have known Spam came from America.

53 posted on 03/01/2013 6:01:13 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Heh. The low-info voters don’t want history with facts. They want obamafones and marvel comics with black homosexual heroes ;).


54 posted on 03/01/2013 6:21:42 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: muawiyah
The T34 used as a base for the rocket launcher is always discussed in any piece on the Stalin Organ.
The base of this is a M4 Sherman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T34_Calliope

I hope you are familiar with that term ~ in the last week I've discovered several young people who had no idea what the term referred to ~ The Katyushka was often called "Stalin's Organ"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyusha_rocket_launcher

55 posted on 03/01/2013 10:00:27 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The world's largest defense contractor, Lockheed Martin, is trying to convince wavering U.S. allies — including Canada — to stick with its high-tech, high-priced and unproven F-35 stealth fighter. But the F-35 is way behind schedule, way over budget and, now, it's grounded by a mysterious crack in a turbine fan.

F-35 V.S other fighters.

REMEMER A LONE AMATEUR built the ARK.

A large group of professionals built the Titanic.

56 posted on 07/04/2015 10:13:28 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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