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Hagel Approved for Defense in Sharply Split Senate Vote
NYTimes ^ | 2/26/2013 | JEREMY W. PETERS

Posted on 02/26/2013 6:28:54 PM PST by South40

WASHINGTON — The Senate confirmed Chuck Hagel as defense secretary on Tuesday after he survived a bruising struggle with Republicans, while President Obama’s nominee to be Treasury secretary moved closer to approval with bipartisan support. The votes suggested that the Republican blockade against the administration’s second-term nominees was beginning to ease.

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To: South40

RINOs - still pretending they aren’t big government liberals.

But not fooling anyone but themselves.

The good Ol’ Boy Senate Club is more important to them than the defense of the country.


21 posted on 02/26/2013 7:27:10 PM PST by Iron Munro (I miss America, don't you?)
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To: South40

I just don’t think this matters much one way or the other.


22 posted on 02/26/2013 7:29:59 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: South40

This will only embolden the kenyan to nominate more buffoons. That the GOP allowed themselves to be so brazenly buffaloed is historic.

Dems would have never, ever have allowed a vote with Hagel still refusing to answer the questions asked by the committee. We are led by cheese eating surrender monkeys. Words fail me.


23 posted on 02/26/2013 7:39:10 PM PST by lodi90
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To: South40
The CPUSA is now large and in charge in DC.

Patriots nationwide now have only one task.

Destroy the Republicrats and the apparatchiks in DC by any means necessary, and negate their ability to steal cash from the working man outside the Beltway via income tax withholding.

The Washingtonians must be neutralized.

24 posted on 02/26/2013 7:59:33 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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25 posted on 02/26/2013 8:06:05 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: rockinqsranch
You are spot on on your assessment of Paul's being more than the perverbial "chip off the old block(head)."

Occasionally, I think that something the elder Paul said made sense, then the next minute he opens his mouth and spouts total craziness, i.e. America deserved 9/11 for "interfering in other countries!"

Rand's behavior is more misleading or is it merely "hopeful" as he was supported over more liberal opponent and spoke favorably on pro-life issues, unlike his father, also a physician but unwilling to lift a finger in support of slaughtered innocent babies.

I know of some pro-life folk who are total kooks on many issues and also liberal on issues like the Second Amendment, taxes and school choice but I'll never trust anyone that supports the slaughter of millions of babies, claiming freedom of the individual.

Nope, not only is Rand like his dad on other Libertiarian issues, he is also unsympathetic to Israel's right to exist against neighbors who desire their total destruction.

26 posted on 02/26/2013 8:30:13 PM PST by zerosix (Native sunflower)
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To: South40

Man, I just laid into Richard Shelby’s ass with an e-mail that was a scorcher. I told him to man up and get the hell out of the Republican party and join his liberal friends. I told him he should open a spot for a real conservative. Lol, it was bad. He may put a hit on me so if I disappear you’ll all know what happened. Laughs. I’m sick of sleeper liberals popping up in the Republican party on crucial votes. I’m sad for my state because of the shame and embarrassment Shelby has caused with his treason. Shelby is a stinking politician and most likely was paid off to vote for Hagel. He will never ever get any respect from me again. I’m done with him.


27 posted on 02/26/2013 9:07:14 PM PST by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: bmwcyle
"McCain is a Democrat and no one can tell me he is not playing for the other side."

There is lots to support your assertion, though another interpretation might be that the two parties have been cooperating for decades to support the assuption by most that the public has but two voices; sometimes one side prevails and sometimes the other.

After McCain's run in 2000 he was attacked by Democrats for lacking constitutional eligibility. He was defended by a Chicago law firm active on Obama’s campaign committee. When law suits were inconclusive, John Conyers two attempts to get an amendment to the Constitution in 2004 and 2005 failed, and amendment that would have made both McCain and Obama natural born citizens, and Congress couldn't resolve eligibility in his, McCain's, favor Obama and has campaign chair, Clare McCakill authored a bill in the Senate, SB 2678, in Feb 2008, the ‘‘Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act’’. Were McCain eligible the bill wouild have been redundant, and moot. It wasn't redundant, but failed to pass.

When SB 2678 failed, McCaskill, Clinton, Obama, Webb and Coburn and Pat Leahy filed Senate Resolution 511, again to support a claim of eligibility for McCain, though a resolution has no legal authority. It said, in effect, that because McCain's parents were citizens, it didn't matter that the Canal Zone was unincorporated territory in 1936. Legally, the 100% support for SR 511 was no surprise. They all agreed with Judge Michael Chertoff who said “My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied, and Obama concurred!

They needed McCain to run interference. With questions about his eligibility stifling any eligibility questions from the Republicans, Obama’s not have been born to citizen parents would never be raised. McCain was fully aware of questions about his status, and provided a birth certificate showing that he was born in Colon Hospital - definintely not sovereign territory. Whether the Colon birth certificate was legitimate, the Canal Zone was not sovereign US territory until 1937 when Congress acted to incorporate The Zone.

McCain's McCain-Feingold bill threw power to the media, already almost entirely liberal. We can't read his mind, but his actions got Obama elected, with the protection of the media that deployed the Alinsky rules to silence honest questions about the law. Progressives deployed masterful misdirection, for example by ridiculing “Birthers” with “Because natural born citizenship was not defined in The Constitution...” implying that therefore the "living Constitution" definition let them designate Obama, born British, a "natural born citizen", even when he himself was careful not to make that claim; he said "I am a native-born citizen of the US", which is the definition for a 14th Amendment citizen, whose parents, like those of slaves in 1866, were not citizens. Slaves were made naturalized citizens, native-born in the US, but not natural born citizen.

Few in our low-information society, apparently including Michael Chertoff, knew that there are not definitions of terms in the Constitution. The definition was cited as dictum in twenty five or so supreme Court cases, and as precedence in Minor v. Happersett, and has never been amended or reinterpreted, "born on our soil to parents who were its citizens."

Madison, among many of our framers, explained that the omission was deliberate. Time changes the meanings of words. The Constitution was built upon Natural Law, eternal law; for the document to retain eternal meaning the definitions must be construed from the language and law familiar to its framers.

McCain is more likely an example of a politician for whom there is no political doctrine, except perhaps self interest. Chuck Hagel is another “Republican” whose beliefs appear closer to those of the progressives than conservatives, which neither McCain nor Hagel represent. Unless someone talks we will never know whether McCain's actions were coerced (Keating Five anyone?) or whether he really is that much closer to George Soros than Sarah Palin. We do know that he does not honor, defend or protect the Constitution, as he has sworn to do many times as a Naval Officer and Congressman.

28 posted on 02/26/2013 9:52:37 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Faith65
Rand Paul voted for him....

This isn't good. I'm sure Democrat Senators will confirm a future Republican president cabinet nominees

29 posted on 02/26/2013 9:53:37 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Spaulding

Outstanding post.


30 posted on 02/26/2013 9:56:36 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: Faith65

.......Our country will never be the same...ever.

................

I wonder whether instead of Obamaphones, we can all get a Rosetta Stone Farsi translation app on our iPhones???


31 posted on 02/26/2013 10:17:14 PM PST by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Spaulding

Amen and pass the ammunition.


32 posted on 02/26/2013 10:20:37 PM PST by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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To: lwoodham

You are not alone:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/26/Alabama-Republicans-Demand-Shelby-Retract-Support-of-Hagel


33 posted on 02/26/2013 10:24:00 PM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Spaulding
McCain cheated on his wife, too. A man that will not honor his marriage vows probably won't honor any others either.

"If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones. But if you are dishonest in little things, you won't be honest with greater responsibilities." (Luke 16:10)

34 posted on 02/26/2013 10:30:24 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: South40
From a CORRECT source.

May these four TRAITORS die a very agonizing and slow death !
They enable our enemies to rule over our military!
35 posted on 02/26/2013 10:52:38 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Segovia
Paul’s vote floored me.

It is Orin Hatch logic.

36 posted on 02/26/2013 10:56:38 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Spaulding
If anyone bothered anymore you would be in for a scorching.

Great synopsis of reality in the traitorous era we now live in.

37 posted on 02/26/2013 11:11:32 PM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: Yosemitest

They were probably bribed.


38 posted on 02/26/2013 11:11:32 PM PST by South40
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To: South40
If they can't defend us in this matter, they can't defend us in ANY matter.
To HELL with them all!
39 posted on 02/26/2013 11:48:30 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: South40

The vote was actually a lot closer than I was expecting. I’ve been of a mind the hold up on Hagel’s nom was always a bargaining chip to force Obama to release some information about Benghazi. Maybe that disastrous appearance by Chuck hurt him more than I’d reckoned.


40 posted on 02/27/2013 12:03:51 AM PST by DemforBush (When life gives you lemons, hoard them and make a killing in citrus futures!)
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