Posted on 02/18/2013 9:11:08 AM PST by jimluke01
The term “moronic” is defined as “notably stupid or lacking in good judgment.” It is frequently used as an insult.
The Obama administration is moronic.
This is not an insult.
President Obama’s latest “notably stupid” stoke of America’s calculated slow burn is the decision to lift the ban on women in direct combat. Along with the move a few years back to turn the Officers’ Club into the Blue Oyster Bar, this most recent social experiment with national security represents one small step for the “progressive” agenda and one giant prance toward the pansification of the greatest military in world history.
It’s a jaw-dropping “lack in good judgment.”
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The WWII army was 93% draftee, the Marines and Navy were full of draftees, men are interchangeable once in the service.
When a college man can pummel a college woman into the ground and everyone just laugh it off as an ordinary ‘fistfight’, then maybe it will be time to look at women in the military.
If they are just as able as men, why not try an entire platoon of women? Or how about entire platoons of homosexual men and entire platoons of homosexual women? Couldn’t possibly be any disruptive problems within the ranks./s
How is that relevant to the discussion? That is like saying one can accept 6 year olds being president if they are capable of it, or other non-statement/statements.
A drafted Marine is the same as a volunteer Marine, draftees are not like women with a separate standard, the men are interchangeable.
Ah, you again! No, a drafted Marine is not the same as a volunteer: they never get over the fact that they were shanghaied into the Corps and often don’t blend well with the men enlisted voluntarily. We who volunteered couldn’t complain because when we did, our leaders would just say “you asked for it”. Draftees never had that to fall back on.
Yes men are interchangeable, better a drafted 18 year old Marine who grows up in basic than a teen girl being hired in his place, a girl who will never be a man.
Few Americans are even aware that the Marine Corps drafts for major wars, just as they aren’t aware that the WWII military was mostly draftees.
However my experience with the few draftees we had during Vietnam was that the non-volunteers never picked up the ferocity that we volunteer Marines had. We had one drafted guy that was sent as a replacement to our infantry company in early 1967 and he was a nice guy and he tried hard enough but he was almost useless in a fight. He finally got so psychologically worn out that our battalion CO recommended that he be sent home. He hadn't wanted to be there and he wasn't mentally ready to fight and kill, so he was a liability to the rest of us.
“”Conservatives” who don’t serve aren’t conservatives, they’re parasites. “
True, however, drafting them is the answer? What did the nation do or not do to allow someone to be such a coward in the first place? How did we arrive at a point where people don’t want to serve? Even in the Revolutionary War we had problems recruiting people because most didn’t believe in a war with England. Draftees, while many if not most did serve honorably, didn’t fair as well as the volunteers. If you want people to serve their country you have to give them an honorable country they desire to serve. Simply demanding it doesn’t get you anywhere, draftees or not. God help us if we have to draft people for a war on our soil, we might end up with a bunch of well trained and equipped traitors.
I served with GIs who showed no difference between draftee and volunteer, good and bad came from both, many draftees went on to become super soldier volunteers going Airborne and into Rangers and Special Forces, women are inferior to male soldiers regardless of whether as 19 year olds they wanted to enlist or were drafted.
“Last Vietnam Era Draftee Finally Retires” July, 2011
“It was 1972, a time of protest when war was stigmatized and some of those who fought in it were spat on.
A young drywall installer in Oregon, just 19 years old, had just gotten a letter from the White House, and believed that President Nixon had sat down and written to him. It was a letter informing him that he would be drafted.
Now that teenager is Command Sgt. Maj. Jeffrey Mellinger, and he’s been in the Army for 39 years.”
“Mellinger told the draft board there was a mistake.
“I ... told them I don’t need to go into the Army, I’ve got a job,” said Mellinger, who hung drywall for a living. “They just kind of laughed.”
“He went to the draft board and asked them if it was really serious. He was told that it was and ended up training at Fort Ord, in California, soon thereafter. He later was stationed in West Germany as a clerk and could not wait to get out after his two year service was up. The company commander ended up changing his mind when he convinced him on the possibility of joining the Army Rangers. He said in a 2007 ABC News magazine interview that reenlisting was the best decision of his life. As of 2011, he has made over 3,700 jumps with a total of thirty-three hours in freefall.”
Wow. I hope you don't really believe that.
So I sort of prove your point - except if I were dragged into it, I might not have adapted to things properly and never accepted my place among my brother Marines as well. A large part of the Marine Corps' success has been the bond between us and I knew, as all my other Marines knew, that the man on either side of me would carry his weight and if I was in trouble, they'd risk their lives to help me. I knew that I was up to that too - and I was wounded while dragging a wounded Marine out of an open rice paddy while a whole bunch of people were shooting at us.
I liked the guys who were drafted and served well in Vietnam - I met a bunch of them in the hospitals while we recovered - but they had a different mental set from those of us in the Marine Corps who volunteered and knew what we were in for.
I believe that any man who is physically able should join his country's armed forces and serve at least one enlistment. It is our duty as citizens and has the side benefit of getting everybody out of their little burgs and out into the rest of the country and the world. There is also the major side benefit of fully training all our young men in the use and employment of small arms. If we have a war going, then if one set of American young people are at risk, we should all be at risk.
I believe that any man who is physically able should join his country's armed forces and serve at least one enlistment. It is our duty as citizens and has the side benefit of getting everybody out of their little burgs and out into the rest of the country and the world. There is also the major side benefit of fully training all our young men in the use and employment of small arms. If we have a war going, then if one set of American young people are at risk, we should all be at risk.
I do - a conservative is a person who believes in our nation's Constitution and our core values. One of those core values is the sharing of our country's defense and learning military skills so we can carry out our part of protecting our families and our communities when we have completed our service. Dodging that responsibility is not a conservative principle and leaves somebody else to fill that person's place and assume the risks instead. That is why I am no fan of people like Rush who talk a good game but when we needed every single able man to help us in Vietnam, he stayed out because of butt cysts. I hope that he always wonders who took his (and Clinton's, and Cheney's) place and if that guy survived. In Vietnam, I learned which citizens were willing and able to shoulder the risks for their country and each other and which people suddenly decided that their skins were worth more than their country.
I don’t remember state slavery being part of the Constitution.
The military is doomed no matter what, a modern draft will be used to draft women and other elements to reshape the military in a political sense.
An all volunteer military doesn’t work either, it is too weak and tiny to do much, our dealings with China and hostile alliances will become based on the cold fact that we can’t meet and defeat them on the battlefield, and the social engineering and clamor for ever increasing pay, benefits, and quality of life issues, will eventually turn our military into merely another federal job, either unionized, or the same as unionized.
In time our military will be half female, liberal, isolated from citizens and they will all be career people, and patriotism and sacrifice will be replaced by the usual government employee demands for more goodies and an easier life that is less risky and less demanding, and that is absolutely about social equality and job fairness.
The military will eventually become hostile to the people and a democratic voting block.
I defer to your experience as a wartime vet. Thank you for your service to our country!
I was simply making a statement of a method that would end the lunacy of women in combat.
I worked with a vet of Gulfwar I. He was in a transportation unit ferrying supplies to the troops at the front. It was a rather dangerous night time drive, 8-10 hours at highway speeds with running lights only. His stories of the women in his unit is that they did not pull their weight, either through fraternizing with the detailers or pregnancy or illness.
I simply don't think most women are fit for combat duty. Yet, it is not possible to discuss this topic rationally due to political correctness. Defies common sense.
It’s called “duty”. Most men are familiar with the term.
You think every single person should become a slave of government for a time?
That is ridiculous.
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