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To: raptor22
"The leading scientists in the world who study climate change now tell us that their projections in the past were wrong; that, in fact, the crisis facing our planet is much more serious than they had previously believed,"

Yeah.....the only global warming is due to Galileo Galilei spinning in his grave....

The SUN IS ON STRIKE...not producing a good crop of sunspots as the sun's magnetic field declines to historic low values.

At best we have another 400 years long Mini Ice Age.

22 posted on 02/15/2013 7:35:08 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave
their projections in the past were wrong

Yeah...and since they control the raw temp data this is fudged and manipulated....

However the sun spot count is as plain and easy to see on a daily basis....

Nasa has a daily sunspot pic

Just make a pin hole image collector to get an image of the sun on a peice of card and count the sunspots yourself

When sunspot data is outlawed....only outlaws will have pin hole cameras.

23 posted on 02/15/2013 7:41:12 PM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: spokeshave
At best we have another 400 years long Mini Ice Age.

I'd refer you to the introductory section of the Geological Society of America's 1990s Treatise on North American geology, found in Volume X, (paraphrasing title here) "The Non-Glacial Quaternary Geology of North America". You're probably aware of what "Quaternary Geology" means, and the buildup of evidence that we have not yet ended the Pleistocene but are merely in another Interglacial.

Refer to paleotemperature proxy curves in the Introduction and correlate the temp curve data of the current Interglacial ("Holocene") since the end of the Lesser Dryas (about 9000-10,000 ybp), or the final, ultimate end of the Wisconsinian Glacial, to the paleotemp curves of earlier warm cycles.

Comparison of this paleotemp curve data with paleotemps available for the earlier interglacials shows that the general form of each interglacial is a cockscomb-like composite curve formed by convolution of multiple cyclicities superimposed on one another. The first-order curve would be (by my horseback reckoning) of eon length, the second-order would reflect the onset of full glacial conditions at the end of the Pliocene, the third would reflect the glaciations and their associated astronomical cyclicities (nutation, precession, etc.). The fourth-, fifth-, and sixth-order cyclicities that give the interglacials their cockscomb appearance are what we're talking about here.

But each interglacial paleotemp curve shares an overall pattern: the warmest part of the interglacial is earlier, and then temps gradually tail off with numerous subcycles (the Roman Warm Period, Medieval Warm, etc.) and convolved higher-frequency cyclicities until, eventually, they crash suddenly to full-pleniglacial ranges.

Eyeball-correlating our current interglacial with previous interglacials, we are about 600-1800 years from the end of the interglacial. That's the point.

Any "mini-Ice Age" similar to the Dalton Minimum of 250 years ago (roughly) would be a higher-order, shorter-wavelength excursion on a longer-wavelength interglacial temperature curve that is gradually tailing off anyway as we look forward to the dregs, the last "good years", of the current interglacial.

It appears, if the sunspot activity is any indication (and Danish and Russian astrophysicists and climatologists have been warning us for a few years about this reduction of solar output, even as Al Gore's fans went crazy imagining palm trees growing on Arctic shores), that our climate going forward is going to be very uncomfortable.

31 posted on 02/16/2013 4:42:37 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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