[Timber Rattler]

Well, the fact of the matter is that most of these veterans aren’t your blue collar enlisted guys working in government warehouses and factories but retired officers taking advantage of both their pension and a second government salary in some agency under veteran preference hiring practices. A lot of times, they are hired under independent contract too. It’s called “double dipping.”

[silverleaf]

many of those “double dippers” are our friends and co workers, and they started 2d jobs after 20-35 years of military service. Only fairly recently did the officers not give up half their pay if they chose to continue to work in agences and programs they understand well, and that they believe to be relevant to our national security

Many “dd’s” are retired Chiefs and other senior enlisted managers with pensions below $30K a year, also 45 yr old LTCs and 50 yr old Colonels working now as civilians - with the same honesty and work ethic - and using their expertise to keep programs flowing and going in the DoD. They are a force multiplier that keeps down the size (and cost to maintain) of the active duty military

Of course you probably think the better hire for these military-related programs and agencies like nuclear security and weapons development and acquisition would be a someone off the street without military experience

[Chainmail]

Oh aren't you the clever one: those of us who served over 20 years in uniform get a limited pension when we retire from the armed forces. If you'd felt like serving your country in a whole lot of nasty places and occasionally being shot at for a long time, you'd have that pension too. Working in the government or for the government afterward is an option that many of us follow. We have expertise and experience most of the rest of the world doesn't have and we are sought out because of that qualification. Kind of a great idea, isn't it? Or would you rather the government only hire amateurs fresh out of school?

Sounds like you're just jealous.

[Chainmail]

Oh aren't you the clever one: those of us who served over 20 years in uniform get a limited pension when we retire from the armed forces. If you'd felt like serving your country in a whole lot of nasty places and occasionally being shot at for a long time, you'd have that pension too. Working in the government or for the government afterward is an option that many of us follow. We have expertise and experience most of the rest of the world doesn't have and we are sought out because of that qualification. Kind of a great idea, isn't it? Or would you rather the government only hire amateurs fresh out of school?

Sounds like you're just jealous.

[napscoordinator]

BS! Where are your statistics? That is not what I see. Most people I run into are E-5 with limbs missing. I can just see your glee in wanting them on the streets.