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Obama Akin to Nixon, Bush, 'They're War Criminals,' Vents Cornel West (LBJ gets a pass)
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Posted on 02/14/2013 8:35:10 AM PST by chessplayer

That's right -- not just Nixon ... Nixon and Bush. Can vilification from the left get much worse than that?


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1 posted on 02/14/2013 8:35:17 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Nixon hell, Obama has set a whole new standard.

Nixon was a saint in comparison.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 8:39:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: chessplayer
(LBJ gets a pass)
LBJ did more lasting damage to this country and is NEVER held responsible ... just like ... you know who.

3 posted on 02/14/2013 8:48:30 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: cripplecreek

I have never liked or trusted Richard Nixon. However, the extreme damage he did through petty corruption and paranoia was in part offset by the substantial good he did through his capable leadership. With Obama, I have been unable to identify even one substantive positive, and I have tried hard to find anything that was not terrible.


4 posted on 02/14/2013 8:58:00 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: oh8eleven

When LBJ was still in office, he caught hell for the Vietnam War by the left. Nowadays almost all the blame for it is on Nixon.


5 posted on 02/14/2013 8:58:22 AM PST by chessplayer
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You can say this about Nixon...he loved his country and didn’t want to see it destroyed. The damage he did via price controls and Watergate (and the EPA) was not done because he wanted to see America “transformed”.


6 posted on 02/14/2013 9:23:55 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: chessplayer

Well, I’ll give Cornell West credit for at least not giving Obama a pass. An awful lot of people on the left (and in black leadership roles) who screamed blue bloody murder about Bush’s policies haven’t made a peep about Obama.


7 posted on 02/14/2013 9:24:19 AM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: chessplayer
Nowadays almost all the blame for it is on Nixon.

You are correct; even though Nixon is the one who ACTUALLY ended America's participation in Vietnam!

Americans have some form of dyslexia when it comes to reading the party-affiliation of actual parties involved: i.e., Republicans ended slavery but HATE minorities, LBJ ESCALATED/Nixon ENDED American involvement in Vietnam but Nixon was the warmonger, Obama has more debt than all other Presidents combined but Bush was the rash, over-spender, etc...

There are many, MANY more examples and it just BAFFLES my mind how abjectly STUPID Americans really can be!
8 posted on 02/14/2013 9:24:36 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: cripplecreek
Nixon, for all his faults, still had sense of decency. I think that's why he was shown the door.

Nixon Tape Discusses Homosexuals at Bohemian Grove

I wonder what Nixon would think of Bath House Barry.

9 posted on 02/14/2013 9:28:53 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Pollster1
With Obama, I have been unable to identify even one substantive positive, and I have tried hard to find anything that was not terrible.

I can -- he has proved instrumental in unifying, to some degree, his opponents. Granted, he has virtually no opponents in the upper-level federal government and those upper-level people keep in check the mid- and lower-levels, and the corruption of the government greatly facilitates this.

Further, despite it being a bad-thing the unemployment that is forcing people [usually young-ish] to move back with their families could be a very-good-thing. -- It's easier to disconnect the heavy-handed actions of a police-state when it's "just a bad guy" [like, say, Dorner] vs. a no knock raid that breaks grandma's hip and has the children in cuffs for hours. (IOW, the cost of allowing tyranny quickly becomes more real if people see it happening to whole families, especially if they have their own whole-family to worry about.)

10 posted on 02/14/2013 9:29:13 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ExTxMarine

I was watching something a few weeks ago that said that Americans voted for a young and vibrant JFK over Nixon but the funny thing is that they were less than 5 years apart in age.

The media has been playing political games like this for many years.


11 posted on 02/14/2013 9:38:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Pollster1

What capable leadership? Detente? Wage and price controls? “Peace with honor”? Nixon sucked.


12 posted on 02/14/2013 9:43:59 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

You left out going to China.


13 posted on 02/14/2013 9:44:44 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Tublecane

And Title IX.


14 posted on 02/14/2013 9:45:26 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: OneWingedShark
Further, despite it being a bad-thing the unemployment that is forcing people [usually young-ish] to move back with their families could be a very-good-thing.

I have my 23 y/o daughter, son-in-law and two of my grand-kids living with me due to Obama's wonderful "recovery," and she is an Obama fan. I also have other family members who are experiencing a family-reconnect due to Obama's economy, so I see what you are saying and agree that it could prove to be a very-good-thing.

Our recent time together - now as adults and not as father/daughter - has really opened her eyes about a great many things. She even admitted that her views and thoughts about who I was and why I was conservative have really changed as she sees that I live the life that I espouse: work hard, take care of your own and get the government out of our business!

I truly never expect her to become as conservative as me, because she relies so heavily on government assistance, and even thinks that it is good because she doesn't have to work full-time. She says that it is a good thing that the government gives out food stamps, day-care, etc... because she can work part-time and spend more time with her kids. Right now, my wife is providing the day-care (spending more time between multiple generations - a GREAT thing) and she is not needing food stamps. She said, "Sure, but I don't want to live here forever." I agreed and told her that she only need stay until they can care for themselves WITHOUT government assistance. But, she is more interested in having her own house and being "on her own" than understanding that she will again become addicted to those subsidies if she leaves too soon.

I explained that this "assistance" is like crack samples the pushers give out - it is only to get you deeper in their grasp. As a side note, my son-in-law has actually started to agree with me - which isn't currently helping their relationship - he says they should stay until they can actually be "on their own," not needing ANYONE'S assistance.
15 posted on 02/14/2013 9:51:50 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Pollster1

Nixon tried to block one little investigation into the burglary of a photo.

No one was killed. The damage done during his Presidency was the return to ascendancy of the left in the Democrat party.

This was the result of cowardice by Republicans in Congress.


16 posted on 02/14/2013 9:57:29 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: chessplayer

As I recall it was Nixon who cleaned up a mess, albeit poorly, that was made by two prior Democrats!


17 posted on 02/14/2013 10:00:48 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Tublecane

For the most part, yes, Nixon was one of the bottom three or four presidents in our history. But in comparison with the current occupant of our White House, I stand by my statement. It would take a miracle for former junior US Senator Obama to deserve a place among our top 40 presidents (or for that matter on a list of all lawful Presidents of the United States). I’m praying that Obama will surprise me and turn out better than James Buchanan.


18 posted on 02/14/2013 10:01:52 AM PST by Pollster1
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I’m praying that Obama will surprise me and turn out better than James Buchanan.

At this point, I think that will take a "Dallas" TV-series style "it has all been a bad dream" event to occur! I don't know how you have a mass-illusion of this magnitude - but it currently makes Houdini and Copperfield look like Saturday afternoon birthday party jesters!
19 posted on 02/14/2013 10:10:46 AM PST by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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At this point, I think that will take a "Dallas" TV-series style "it has all been a bad dream" event to occur!

I'm thinking more along the lines of the Newhart "What a terrible dream" episode.

20 posted on 02/14/2013 10:13:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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