[muawiyah]

Way back in the early 1960s the then anti-communist movement clearly identiied the people surrounding Theodore Roosevelt as having had policies not dissimilar to those advocated by the world socialist movement ~ to wit, TR was a progressive, just like his successors were progressives ~ and that whole crowd deep into the Kellog-Briand treaty was definitely questionable.

At that time there were still people around, active Conservatives, who'd known TR, FDR and the Taft's personally.

BTW, back then we used meeting halls and the mails to communicate ~ worked just as well.

The dichotomy you're talking about as having not occurred until recent times IS WRONG ~

[Sherman Logan]

The dichotomy I’m talking about is one of Democratic = liberal/progressive and Republican = conservative.

Until recently both parties had liberal and conservative wings.