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To: Pelham

The institution of slavery became worse over time. The southern slave power worked to make slavery worse, and to prevent slaves from being freed, educated. Though Washington freed his slaves, Jefferson did not because Virginia changed the terms by which slaves could be freed.

Regarding States Rights, the right of habeas corpus was routinely denied to persons accused of being run away slaves. That led to gangs of kidnappers roaming northern states and picking up people to be forced to the south and into slavery. States were not permitted to enforce procedures that interfere with such crimes. The slave power was opposed to states rights.

It always amused me that neo-confederates complain about Lincoln’s restrictions on habeas corpus. Of course they are ok with it, if the slave catchers ever asserted that a victim was a run away slave.

North Carolina permitted black freedmen to vote until 1835. After that, not.

Slavery was getting worse over time. Slave owners of 1776 had much for which to answer. Those of 1860 had much more for which to answer.


210 posted on 02/24/2013 2:08:33 PM PST by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

“States were not permitted to enforce procedures that interfere with such crimes.”

So- now you’re complaining about an absence of States Rights? That’s rich.

“It always amused me that neo-confederates complain about Lincoln’s restrictions on habeas corpus.”

Well of course. What else is a neo-Yankee going to do but affect an amused condescension? After all jailing northern political opponents without trial and shutting down the opposition press by force is hard to defend.

“Slavery was getting worse over time. Slave owners of 1776 had much for which to answer. Those of 1860 had much more for which to answer.”

And here we have an attempt at justifying the neo-Yankee double standard regarding the slave owning of the Founders versus the slave owning of 80 years later.

Of course it conveniently ignores the standard argument that slavery is in itself a moral evil; instead we get this relativistic judgement that 1860s slavery was a moral evil deserving death and destruction whereas Founding era slavery was, well, you know, somehow less.

This allows the modern neo-Yankee to justify a brutal war against slave owning Americans in 1860, while conveniently trying to maintain a claim on the Founders as well. How’s that for consistency?


213 posted on 02/24/2013 3:44:42 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio. for Amnesty, Spanish, and Karl Rove.)
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