LENR-Cars Startup. Funded by the founder of Logitech

AGEFI Geneva ^ | 05-02-2013, 21:29 | Yoann Schenker

[Kevmo]

AGEFI Geneva: Chauvin/LENR-Cars presented. Funded by the founder of Logitech

Thread: AGEFI Geneva: Chauvin/LENR-Cars presented. Funded by the founder of Logitech

05-02-2013, 21:29#1

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AGEFI Geneva: Chauvin/LENR-Cars presented. Funded by the founder of Logitech

an incredibly positive (in french) article in the AGEFI, 'the dayly newpaper of economic and financial agency in Geneva' : http://www.agefi.com/une/detail/arch...ectriques.html (in googlish)

http://www.agefi.com/une/detail/archive/2013/february/artikel/lenr-cars-la-start-up-lausannoise-developpe-une-nouvelle-generation-de-moteurs-electriques.html (version francaise de cet article)

Applied nuclear fusion Lenr cars.The start-up develops Lausanne a new generation of electric motors.

"The technology we are developing will allow a car to travel 40,000 kilometers on a single tank of fuel without generating any waste." This ambitious project comes from Nicolas Chauvin, founder and CEO of startup LENR Cars, based at the EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale). To meet this challenge, this Logitech and NASA former engineer, uses a technology called nuclear fusion LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions).

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To date, the prototype is being developed. Its final version should be released in 2014. Funded initially by private funds, including those of its creator, the company can also count on the support of the founder of Logitech , Daniel Borel. "He was immediately fascinated by the project. His many contacts we are also very valuable. "However, the company seeking additional funds. "We are not looking for significant funding for now. 200,000 francs (swiss franc) allow us to continue the development of our prototype. "LENR Cars is currently in talks with several automakers, including PSA (Peugeot-Citroen) and Telsa groups. Though the start-up is only on the development of this specific segment of the market can change quickly. "This is a risky area or can go very fast. It is likely that within five years the energy giants are involved significantly in this revolutionary technology. " Many scientists and journalists are indeed of the opinion that LENR technology represents one of the greatest discovery of mankind. "The problem is that the huge economic stakes and the pressure of oil and nuclear industries likely to jeopardize this new breakthrough."

in the body of the article, there is an attack of the oil lobby, even if lobbies in my opinion is not needed to explain that tragedy. Dysfunctional ego of physicists, coupled with technical problems preventing a rapid industrial success killed this research area... That physicists are less proud, or that cold fusion would be usable in 1993, all would have been accepted without worries.

[Kevmo]

he’s not the Logitech founder, he’s just a former employee.
***Thanks for the update/correction.

If E-Cat doesn’t work, he’ll have to find another project.
***I wish him the best but he should start looking for something else now. Let’s assume there’s a breakthrough in LENR by June this year. By June of next year there will be $hundreds of billions focused on generating a LENR car. Starting with Stirling steam engines and moving forward to better stuff. He’s already out of his league.

[count-your-change]

“When was the last time I posted any article focusing on Rossi?”

Oh, I don't know...When was the last time you called the non-believers “seagulls”.

Look...For all the experiments and papers there is still no good reason to think any practical application is possible.

If it were just a matter of producing excess heat there would be no problem, mix the ingredients, pump water past it and bingo! Cheap space heating!

Anyone doing that? NASA, MIT, auto companies? No and none in sight, for a good reason.

[Kevmo]

Oh, I don’t know...
***Ya got nuthin’

thanks for bumping the thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19

[count-your-change]

“To date, the prototype is being developed. Its final version should be released in 2014”

Whatda ya mean “nuthin’”? Why...Next year we’ll all have the nuclear fusion powered car. 40,000 km. on a tank of some kind of fuel, “green” fuel since there’s no waste.

No one has produced so much as a single workable water heater but next year “Le Car Nuclear”, final version, will be released!

That should be plenty of time to work the excuses for why it doesn’t happen. Maybe 2015, 16 or more likely, never.

[citizen]

The technology we are developing will allow a car to travel 40,000 kilometers on a single tank of fuel...

If the fuel pack on a newly purchased vehicle actually did provide that much evergy over an extended period of time, we would likely see the marketing of the concept of the "disposable vehicle."

40,000 kilometers is about 25,000 miles. That isn't a lot of driving for many people but OTOH people like me that only drive five to six thousand miles per year could be a customer for such a vehicle. Drive it for four or five years, then trade it for a new model.

Your used vehicle then either gets refurbished, re-fueled and sold as a rebuilt car or it is scrapped and recycled for materials to make new vehicles.

[Kevmo]

Whatda ya mean “nuthin’”?
***I mean, nothing — as in, what you contribute.

thanks for bumping the thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19

[Kevmo]

Rather than a disposable vehicle, I think it will be like a core charge for a battery. You turn in the old one and buy a new one, and the store recharges/refurbishes or disposes of the old LENR heat pump. It’s like getting 25k miles on a tank of gas. Refilling stations will be fewer and farther between.

[RavenLooneyToon]

“To date, the prototype is being developed. Its final version should be released in 2014” Well,ummm,, I suppose it might be possib...BWAH-HAHAHAHAH! OH STOP IT! Your killing me! BWAAAA-HA-HA-HA....

[RavenLooneyToon]

Make lead box about the size of a bread box. Loop pipe in box.
Attach water tank on one end.
Attach boiler on other end.
Place steam driven generator between boiler and return.
Place a fist sized amount of Palladium or Thorium in bread box.
Attach contraption to any electric car.

Now you can drive it for 16 billion miles or 150,000 years.
I can develop this and have it ready by next month, but I will need capital.

[Kevmo]

thanks for bumping the thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2965392/posts?page=19#19

[count-your-change]

My pin, your balloon. It’s enough. Now about those cars...

[BlueDragon]

Getcher' L E N R runnin

Head out on the h$ghway

Lookin for inve$tor$

Who'll believe what'vr we say

Ooh baby gonna talk it happen

Take the funds in a love embrace

Run all of our mouths at once and

Play around and get paid

Like-a true conjob smile

We were born, born to this guile

We can drive so high

We'll never...run out of li-ii-es.

Born_ to_ this_ guile. (repeat)

[count-your-change]

Dealerships will soon be available. Get in early while you can.

[BlueDragon]

Dealerships will soon be available. Get in early while you can.

I would, but it would contribute nothing to this thread.

[muawiyah]

it’ll still be much better spent than if he’d invested in a major daily newspaper or a serious monthly magazine.

[muawiyah]

Running a con game ~ that sounds pretty much like an accusation of fraud. Actually, it is an accusation of fraud ~ to wit, in almost all cases, running a bunco game. That's where you play on the pigeon's own greed to assist him in handing over his assets to you.,

So, the guy who founded Logitec is, by your way of thinking, engaging in fraud?

[muawiyah]

Way back a young woman won a science fair by demonstrating a new way to create diamond film ~ of course no one had ever done that before so there was a lot of speculation about how the process actually worked and what it could be used for.

One proposal was to provide diamond films around candybars so they could have almost unlimited shelf-life.

Along the way someone came up with the idea of welding small, cheap diamonds, into large, not so cheap, but not outrageously expensive diamonds.

That right there almost wiped out the industrial diamond producers, then the Russians showed up with this black diamond material that is harder than diamond.

I still remember the principals in the diamond racket telling us these 'fake diamonds' would never be an adequate substitute for 'the real thing' ~ more recently they've demanded that all welded diamond products have a serial number cut into them by a laser.

Still, from the viewpoint of the customers a big diamond on your girlfriend's finger does what it's supposed to do, and you're happy and she's happy.

The use of the phenomenon underlying LENR is like that ~ if it provides anomalous heat, the market place will use it anyway and be happy provided it doesn't slag out and burn down the block.

[muawiyah]

BTW, there are some real questions what NASA is preparing to do in the face of the Obama sequestration program ~ and then there are the various hot-fusion projects that depend on federal government funding.

LENR might well be THE ONLY THING by June ~ simply because Obama has wiped out all of our research into space or fusion.

Get ready for another flood of highly trained physicists with nothing to do ~ and they can't all turn into day traders.

[muawiyah]

There's already a developed technology that carves motor vehicles ino motor/engine, drivetrain, body and chassis ~ your typical UPS truck and postal delivery vehicles depend on it. Those big tractor-trailers are heavy into the idea ~ they usually change engines several times on a single body/chassis combo, and might well use several different transmissions over the life of a single engine under the hood/cab array.

What I see is the creation o a standard power pak ~ you guy it seperately from everything else and have it installed. otherwise it looks like the same old automobile.