Therein lies the problem. BTW, did you vote to confiscate property from some one who didn't pay their dues?
When the board was getting too uppity, I just got a few people each year to sign up to be members, and that put and end to that.
I don't support democracy, I support Contitutional law.
BTW, the world does not revolve around “you” :-) Sometimes, “you” is just a generic term; especially when it is qualified to indicate people who take a certain action — the part you didn’t quote.
I support individual rights as long as those rights do not infringe on others.
On the other hand, when you enter a partnership, there most certainly is a form of control. If you got married, you would know that. Marriage is a form of partnership, and once married, you don’t get to do “whatever you want”. Heck, if you enter the partnership of “having sex with a woman”, and you got her pregnant, you’d know that such a partnership comes with control over your earnings, when you had to pay child support.
LOL...you confuse a voluntary "partnership with a woman as a contract.
Marrying is defined by law as a contract, not a partnership. The partnership is religious.
Six year olds understand the differences between partnership and contracts.
Do you understand the difference between voluntary and Government mandated?
No, you don't.
Where do HOA's derive their power to foreclose on a home owner who is delinquent in his does?
How is it they can keep the proceeds as a profit?
Are you a communist troll?>
Did someone force you to move into a neighborhood with an HOA?
You sign a contract when you buy a house.
It is that contract, and what is in the deed for the house you are buying, that puts you in an HOA relationship. It isn’t the “government”.
And if you can be foreclosed on, it is because of the terms of that contract.
On the other hand, there is probably a local government where the house is, and when you buy the house, you also end up in a relationship with that local government, which could have the power to foreclose on your house if you don’t pay property taxes.
And it’s not really possible to not end up living where there is government. I guess you could buy your own island, although most islands are also considered within the boundaries of some country which will have a government. It’s not easy to own your own country.
I know we don’t have the power, and I’m not sure any HOA has the power, to actually “confiscate” property. I guess if you file a lien for unpaid obligations, and the homeowner can’t make good on the liens, that at some point a court might order a sale of the property to cover the debt. But that’s what happens when you get in debt — if you incur debt due to a contract, and refuse to pay, you could eventually lose something.
I don’t know — maybe you think that if a car dealer sells you a car with a car loan, and you stop paying the loan, that they shouldn’t be allowed to take your car from you. Or if a worker fixes your roof, and you don’t pay, they shouldn’t be allowed to attach a lien to your property (that is actually the norm for HOAs, you file a lien and when the house eventually sells, you get paid from the proceeds).
Anyway, I don’t know what your beef is with private contractual obligations. Or how you think a neighborhood with something like a common pool is supposed to manage that pool without dues or a way to set rules and regulations for the use of the pool for everybody’s benefit. There were people who thought communes would just work, that people would get along and everything would be just hunky dory. But it never works out — people need rules and order in order to share common responsibility.
And if you are the kind of person who doesn’t play well with others, I think it’s great that we live in a country where you can choose not to enter contracts that would obligate you to pay dues or give up control over things.
There are HOAs that abuse their power, just like there are governments that abuse their power. It seems silly to argue that the concept of an HOA is itself to be avoided, any more than it would make sense to argue that we’d be better off without a government.
I hope you aren’t one of those who argue we would be better off without a government.