Posted on 02/10/2013 7:40:47 AM PST by Kaslin
To the state in the modern era, the definition it uses is whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority think it is at any one time. Pope Leo XIII warned about the state’s influence concerning marriage 130 years ago. Makes you wonder what the state might consider marriage in another 130 years.
Freegards
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It should come as no surprise to anyone that those who want to change the definition of the word “marriage” are mostly the same people who have changed the definitions of crucially-important words like “person,” “posterity,” “life,” “equal,” and “due process,” leading to the slaughter of more than fifty million innocent children in this country alone.
Justice, the rule of law, and in fact civilization itself, are impossible without a common, reasonable understanding of the meanings of words, one that is based in an awareness of the laws of nature and of nature’s God.
Destroy that, and ultimately, you will have destroyed everything.
Words mean things. We can never forget that.
Polygamy and child marriages in the 1800’s drove the notion that the state should get involved in issuing “marriage licenses.”
And here we are going full circle in a process that may end up with legalized polygamy.
Just like “guns” get people all emotional demanding new laws today, the polygamists (Mormons in particular) and marriages involving young girls got people emotional back then demanding government intervention.
I think the problem is that many have been conditioned to think marriage comes from and is defined by the state, that’s why so many accept the concept of ‘gay marriage’ in the first place. It can exist because the state says it can, it comes in little pieces of paper. The paper denotes a contract with benefits and strictures between any parties the state chooses and can be broken and resumed as long as the state gives its permission.
A lot of times those faiths that accept ‘gay marrige’ won’t even act on this belief until the state tells them that it also accepts ‘gay marrige.’ Which might be more insane than buying into ‘gay marriage’ in the first place.
Freegards
Go ahead Western libs — ramp it up. Legalize gays, legalize illegals, legalize muslim polygamy. Let’s just speed this thing up, kill ALL the jobs, get EVERYONE on welfare ...
The faster the BETTER, so we can watch this b*tch crash that much sooner.
This makes me think Lords may have what it takes to stop it.
And I don't agreewith this articl that Lords stopping it won't do anything because of the assumption that Commons will vote it again and again. It's possible next time that many of the "voting present" in Commons will vote "no" next time, which shows a decrease in support, not an increase. We'll see.
No smartie, not everybody knows that - I know that, and YOU know that, but 99% of the heterosexual community who support gay marriage has not idea that’s the ultimate goal.....which was my point FROM THE BEGINNING
it’s tough to claim they want to be married by a church whose core beliefs they abhor and violate daily
same with the pro abortion crowd
“Canada legalized same-sex marriage long ago and the only thing that has changed is you never hear about same-sex marriage any more ,give them nothing to complain about and they go away”
Try having kids in a gay-friendly state and see if they go away...
And the next perversion they are trying to legitimize is sex with children. One wonders how long God will put up with this.
2 Kings gives you a pretty good perspective on how God deals with issues like these.
btw, in Poland last week, the government rejected an attempt to allow "civil unions" -- so ther eis still some hope!
All wishful thinking aside, in England the canons have no cannon, the Church of England being unarmed save by prayer and doctrine. The military orders, the Templars and Hospitalers, used to have cannon, but they left their cannon in Canaan.
Not the church, so much, as het marriage itself, and society's implicit sanction of het sex over homosex. That is what sticks in their craw.
Marriage holds out to everyone who has eyes and a brain, that heterosexuality is normal, and homosexuality is paraphilic and abnormal. They hate that and will punish you just for knowing it, if they can.
There is nobody so vicious as a hateful little twisted person who demands vindication of his twistedness at the expense of everyone else in the room.
I think you're right, they don't really care. Single-sex "marriage" </off oxymoronic joke> is notional and a test of the strength of their backstairs political conspiracy, which does matter.
As they deface traditional marriage, they also call into serious question the viability of representative government, by compromising and traducing with political money, bad press, and blackmail, officeholders who've sworn to defend the interests of their constituents: the officeholders aren't doing that any more, are they?
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